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Old 27th August 2015, 10:26 PM   #1
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... one must give as well as take. a famous philosopher who once greatly influenced a rather large country that i know you are familiar with, said 'from each according to their ability' before 'to each according to their needs' for a reason. ...
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... Notwithstanding that it is only courteous and proper to add what you can, however little, or even in the case of knowing nothing to admit that and call for assistance...
Come on guys; the forum appreciates your zeal but, no need to tie Dmitriy to the wipping post .
I would recall that these devices were once or twice discussed in the Ethno section and so are registered in the forum archives (which Ibrahiim enjoys calling library ). Looks like their Persian name is WAZNA-I-BARUT (Stones glossary).
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Old 28th August 2015, 11:00 AM   #2
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HERE IS MY POWDER MEASURE WHICH FORUM MEMBERS TOLD ME THAT IT WAS FROM OTTOMON EMPIRE,REPOSTING IT,CHEERS
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Old 28th August 2015, 12:29 PM   #3
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And here is mine. I assume that, being made in brass, is not so old .


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Old 28th August 2015, 06:27 PM   #4
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See Forum Library ... at http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ht=accessories for a comparison...


A nice comparison appears at https://www.pinterest.com/pin/194147433908822536/


In my opinion these are European or from the European ...Here is a description of a very similar item ...

A FINE & RARE 17TH CENTURY GERMAN/DUTCH MATCHLOCK MUSKETEER’S ALL-STEEL ADJUSTABLE POWDER-MEASURE/CHARGER, ca. 1600: In overall fine untouched condition with smooth, deeply oxidized and dark, chiseled, steel surfaces. Retains its original, pull-out, adjustable powder-measure with a graduated and rectangular arm, its circular powder-plunger and a finely chiseled, rivet-fastened, suspension-loop with pierced decorations, at its base--- for a cord/attachment to a Bandolier. The wrought-forged and finely sculpted, cylindrical form, steel body, en suite with generally smooth, untouched, richly patinated surfaces and some forge/hammer-marks, a brazed medial seam, some scattered light abrasions and expected signs of use. The integrally forged, scoop-type pouring mouth with matching wrought-forged steel surfaces and its sides are adorned with pierced and chiseled accents. Very good, rust-patinated interior surfaces with patches of pitting and oxidation. A very early and rare 17th Matchlock Musketeer’s Powder Charger/Measure, ca. 1600. Of typical German/Dutch design with finely crafted and untouched surfaces. The interior, en suite with evident rust-stains. Overall length, 5 1/2” or 7 ˝” fully extended. For similar examples, please see H. L. Peterson’s: Treasury of the Gun” and M. L. Brown’s: “Firearms in Colonial America…”. A Very Scarce 17th Century Piece of Military/Soldier’s Equiptment.

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Old 29th August 2015, 09:48 PM   #5
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Come on guys; the forum appreciates your zeal but, no need to tie Dmitriy to the wipping post .
I would recall that these devices were once or twice discussed in the Ethno section and so are registered in the forum archives (which Ibrahiim enjoys calling library ). Looks like their Persian name is WAZNA-I-BARUT (Stones glossary).

Ola Fernando ! Yes you are right about the terminology Wazna I Barut or Wazna Y Barut and I recall the late Anthony North illustration and detail in his "Introduction to Islamic Arms".
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