SURPRISE! Wootz Steel in a Most Unexpected Place!...An Aceh Podang/Peudueng

CharlesS · 12th June 2015, 02:33 PM

The use of a leather scabbard here(with the peudueng) really surprises me. I have always understood that leather does not hold up well in tropical conditions.

Perhaps someone else knows more about this???

Andrew · 13th June 2015, 11:53 PM

Love it. Thanks for sharing, Charles.

Gavin Nugent · 14th June 2015, 12:04 PM

Hi Charles,

Your sword came from a very high end collection and I suspect the inventory number 209 was left in place on the scabbard?
I would leave it, it is healthy even if shrunken a little.

Charles, Rick, I really don't know what the intention was when forging the amanremu, I'd say they maker had an idea and insight in to wootz, perhaps from those who traded the ingots? I just don't know...the end result wasn't pretty but is important in the study of wootz in Sumatra.
Wootz in Sumatra is a study that I think would be worth while as personally I think your wootz blade was formed in Sumatra, not traded.

Gavin

Rick · 14th June 2015, 03:53 PM

Charles, IIRC I have seen a couple of these scabbards and they were both leather .
I wonder if this style of sword was really meant for combat or simply as a status symbol .

Maurice · 14th June 2015, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

I wonder if this style of sword was really meant for combat or simply as a status symbol .

Hi Rick,

I think, that they were meant to use in a fight. In wartime these status pieces need to do their job!
Just like the moro datu pieces. Besides the status (ivory jungayang hilts and gold or silver etc.), they also were used what they were made off when necesarry.

Kind regards,
Maurice

Maurice · 14th June 2015, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

The use of a leather scabbard here(with the peudueng) really surprises me. I have always understood that leather does not hold up well in tropical conditions.

Perhaps someone else knows more about this???

Hi Charles,

all peudeuangs I have seen and/or owned had leathered scabbards.

The Dutch marechaussees used klewangs in tropical conditions which also had leathered scabbards......

Kind regards,
Maurice

asomotif · 14th June 2015, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice

Hi Charles,

all peudeuangs I have seen and/or owned had leathered scabbards.

The Dutch marechaussees used klewangs in tropical conditions which also had leathered scabbards......

Kind regards,
Maurice

Maurice,

I believe these scabbards are of very light wood with a thin layer of leather.

Best regards,
Willem

Maurice · 15th June 2015, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by asomotif

Maurice,

I believe these scabbards are of very light wood with a thin layer of leather.

Best regards,
Willem

Hi Willem,

Yes wood covered with leather.

Kind regards,
Maurice

CharlesS · 14th June 2015, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice

Hi Charles,

all peudeuangs I have seen and/or owned had leathered scabbards.

The Dutch marechaussees used klewangs in tropical conditions which also had leathered scabbards......

Hi Maurice,

I am a a little surprised by leather or leather covered scabbards on native made blades. I had understood that leather does not hold up well in such climates...but I may be totally wrong.

As for this one's original leather scabbard, I still have it and keep it with the sword, but there is so much sand or grit so deep in the scabbard that I dare not use it for fear of ruining the finish to the blade and the exposed wootz.

12th June 2015, 02:33 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	The use of a leather scabbard here(with the peudueng) really surprises me. I have always understood that leather does not hold up well in tropical conditions. Perhaps someone else knows more about this???

13th June 2015, 11:53 PM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	Love it. Thanks for sharing, Charles.

14th June 2015, 12:04 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Hi Charles, Your sword came from a very high end collection and I suspect the inventory number 209 was left in place on the scabbard? I would leave it, it is healthy even if shrunken a little. Charles, Rick, I really don't know what the intention was when forging the amanremu, I'd say they maker had an idea and insight in to wootz, perhaps from those who traded the ingots? I just don't know...the end result wasn't pretty but is important in the study of wootz in Sumatra. Wootz in Sumatra is a study that I think would be worth while as personally I think your wootz blade was formed in Sumatra, not traded. Gavin

14th June 2015, 03:53 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Charles, IIRC I have seen a couple of these scabbards and they were both leather . I wonder if this style of sword was really meant for combat or simply as a status symbol .