Mendak

ariel · 19th May 2015, 12:24 AM

What kind of mendak would fit a Pathani Tajong with a Swaasa cover for the "nose"?
Are those available? How much would they cost?

David · 19th May 2015, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

What kind of mendak would fit a Pathani Tajong with a Swaasa cover for the "nose"?
Are those available? How much would they cost?

AFAIK most keris tajong don't really have a mendak. Some have something more similar to a selut around the base of the hilt and some closer to what i would call a pendokok or hilt cup. I also have seen many with nothing at all between the hilt and blade.
I'd prefer to keep specific discussion of the cost of things off the boards.

ariel · 20th May 2015, 12:13 AM

Alan repeatedly mentioned high prices of old mendaks.

I just asked him to elaborate on the already expressed qualitative view by adding some quantification.

Nobody here is buying or selling anything specific; we are talking about generalities. Something along the lines: a Swaasa pendokok may cost between $ 200 - 1000. Nothing more.

A. G. Maisey · 20th May 2015, 02:45 AM

Ariel, I'm talking about mendak, not Balinese wewer nor Peninsula pendongkok.

As with all things prices depend upon who is buying and who is selling, where the transaction takes place and at what market level one buys:- a collector in London or New York will pay more than a market retailer who sells in Central Jawa.

David · 20th May 2015, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ariel

Nobody here is buying or selling anything specific; we are talking about generalities. Something along the lines: a Swaasa pendokok may cost between $ 200 - 1000. Nothing more.

As Alan points out Ariel, this thread is about old Javanese mendaks, not swaasa pendokoks. In the keris world these are apples and oranges. There is no one price range for anything that fits between the hilt and blade of every type of keris in all of Indonesia. The culture of collectors of Javanese keris is not the same as it is for Peninsula keris. A swaasa pendokok for a keris tajong will cost whatever the market will bare and will be determined by a number of factors, including, but not limited to the price of gold at the moment (and the weight of the actual pendokok), the level of craft of the part and the rarity or antiquity of that particular pendokok. However, I would still prefer that we keep discussion of the specific cost of such things off the forum. It is a simple request.

Paul B. · 1st March 2018, 11:58 AM

Pick up this old topic to introduce a genuine old mendak.
Unsure about the material. Could either be ivory (no schraeger lines spotted) or deer / antler? Small repair needed at the bottom where a chip was broken off. Very white dense from the inside.
Any suggestion about it and which handle (Solo / Djogja or even Madura) is best to combine?

David · 1st March 2018, 03:02 PM

I doesn't look like ivory Paul. Could be bone or antler. Could even be resin from the looks of it. Is there a thick layer of shellac over it?

Paul B. · 1st March 2018, 05:01 PM

Just oiled it and it should soak a bit (it was very dry) so that's why it appears so shiny.The structure is very dense so I doubt if it is from bone.

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Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Pick up this old topic to introduce a genuine old mendak. Unsure about the material. Could either be ivory (no schraeger lines spotted) or deer / antler? Small repair needed at the bottom where a chip was broken off. Very white dense from the inside. Any suggestion about it and which handle (Solo / Djogja or even Madura) is best to combine? Attached Images

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ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	What kind of mendak would fit a Pathani Tajong with a Swaasa cover for the "nose"? Are those available? How much would they cost?

20th May 2015, 12:13 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Alan repeatedly mentioned high prices of old mendaks. I just asked him to elaborate on the already expressed qualitative view by adding some quantification. Nobody here is buying or selling anything specific; we are talking about generalities. Something along the lines: a Swaasa pendokok may cost between $ 200 - 1000. Nothing more.

20th May 2015, 02:45 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	Ariel, I'm talking about mendak, not Balinese wewer nor Peninsula pendongkok. As with all things prices depend upon who is buying and who is selling, where the transaction takes place and at what market level one buys:- a collector in London or New York will pay more than a market retailer who sells in Central Jawa.

1st March 2018, 03:02 PM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	I doesn't look like ivory Paul. Could be bone or antler. Could even be resin from the looks of it. Is there a thick layer of shellac over it?

1st March 2018, 05:01 PM	#8
Paul B. Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Posts: 205	Just oiled it and it should soak a bit (it was very dry) so that's why it appears so shiny.The structure is very dense so I doubt if it is from bone.