TWO MATCHLOCK MUSKETS for ID and COMMENT

Kubur · 7th April 2015, 09:39 AM

Me too!!
And you will have a lot of work to clean them properly!!

BANDOOK · 7th April 2015, 10:22 AM

HI STU AM SURE YOUR MATCHLOCKS ARE FROM INDIA,THEY ARE FROM RAJASTHAN AND ARE CALLED AS TORADORS .REGARDS

Norman McCormick · 7th April 2015, 05:39 PM

Hi Stu,
Indian matchlocks which I'm sure will look really neat after a little 'pampering'. More Ethno firearms have started to appear on the Forum recently which for me is a bonus so looking forward to further posts after aforementioned 'pampering'. Nice guns.

My Regards,
Norman.

kahnjar1 · 7th April 2015, 08:50 PM

Thanks for the comments....

Kubur.....nothing is achieved without some hard work....

Bandook.....While I agree that it is likely that these are Indian (or in the case of #1 maybe Indo/Arab), I do not think that they are Toradors. The shape is wrong IMHO. The Torador stock has a much more pronounced notch and (usually) a straight stock.

Norm......Thanks your kind comments. I will definitely post again once the TLC is complete. This may take a while as there is not always as much spare time as one would like to get these things done.
I have hopes that at least one of these will be a "shooter" though the bores look rather gnarly at present. Time will tell......

Stu

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 7th April 2015, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kahnjar1

Thanks for the comments....

Kubur.....nothing is achieved without some hard work....

Bandook.....While I agree that it is likely that these are Indian (or in the case of #1 maybe Indo/Arab), I do not think that they are Toradors. The shape is wrong IMHO. The Torador stock has a much more pronounced notch and (usually) a straight stock.

Norm......Thanks your kind comments. I will definitely post again once the TLC is complete. This may take a while as there is not always as much spare time as one would like to get these things done.
I have hopes that at least one of these will be a "shooter" though the bores look rather gnarly at present. Time will tell......

Stu

Salaams kahnjar1 Very interesting ... we used to call these parapet guns before we heard the term Torador which I think at least one of them is...Indian gear is so broad and I cant think of a nation that has more Ethnographic arms and Armour... I would call them variations on a Torador...

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

kahnjar1 · 10th April 2015, 10:10 PM

No further comments regarding origin???

rickystl · 11th April 2015, 07:30 PM

Hi Stu. Now you have a couple of Torador types to go with the Flask. Off hand, I would agree that you have one variation of a Torador, with the other being Indo/Arab. I'll try to do some research to see if we can pin this down a little closer.
An interesting feature on #1: It still retains it's vent pick and chain, and a curious metal piece with a cone shape on one end that I've only seen once before. I've never really known what the purpose is for the cone shaped lever. Hmmm. I have to guesses: 1). Possibly used to extinguish a lit match? Or 2). Maybe to carry a small amount of tinder to make fire to light the match?
Any other ideas? Rick.

7th April 2015, 10:22 AM	#2
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	INDIAN TORADORS HI STU AM SURE YOUR MATCHLOCKS ARE FROM INDIA,THEY ARE FROM RAJASTHAN AND ARE CALLED AS TORADORS .REGARDS

7th April 2015, 09:39 AM	#1
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Me too!! And you will have a lot of work to clean them properly!!

7th April 2015, 05:39 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,644	Hi Stu, Indian matchlocks which I'm sure will look really neat after a little 'pampering'. More Ethno firearms have started to appear on the Forum recently which for me is a bonus so looking forward to further posts after aforementioned 'pampering'. Nice guns. My Regards, Norman.

7th April 2015, 08:50 PM	#4
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,809	Thanks for the comments.... Kubur.....nothing is achieved without some hard work.... Bandook.....While I agree that it is likely that these are Indian (or in the case of #1 maybe Indo/Arab), I do not think that they are Toradors. The shape is wrong IMHO. The Torador stock has a much more pronounced notch and (usually) a straight stock. Norm......Thanks your kind comments. I will definitely post again once the TLC is complete. This may take a while as there is not always as much spare time as one would like to get these things done. I have hopes that at least one of these will be a "shooter" though the bores look rather gnarly at present. Time will tell...... Stu

10th April 2015, 10:10 PM	#6
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,809	No further comments regarding origin???

11th April 2015, 07:30 PM	#7
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hi Stu. Now you have a couple of Torador types to go with the Flask. Off hand, I would agree that you have one variation of a Torador, with the other being Indo/Arab. I'll try to do some research to see if we can pin this down a little closer. An interesting feature on #1: It still retains it's vent pick and chain, and a curious metal piece with a cone shape on one end that I've only seen once before. I've never really known what the purpose is for the cone shaped lever. Hmmm. I have to guesses: 1). Possibly used to extinguish a lit match? Or 2). Maybe to carry a small amount of tinder to make fire to light the match? Any other ideas? Rick.