British silver army belt and pouch

Shakethetrees · 3rd March 2015, 04:03 AM

The hallmark on the vent pick holder is for London, and is 20th century. I will have to get to my library to give you the correct date.

Ken Maddock · 3rd March 2015, 07:58 AM

Hi shakethetrees
Which component part is the vent picker
The arrow like objects?
Thanks
Ken
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Andreas · 3rd March 2015, 08:47 AM

It seems to be the shoulder belt and pouch of an officer of the Norfolk Yeomanry (The King's Own Royal Regiment). Their 1/1st Battalion fought at Gallipoli in 1915, which is probably how the belt found its way to Istanbul. This is consistent with the presence of George V’s cypher. The pouch is older, as the lid bears, as noted by Ken, the royal cypher of Queen Victoria. Maybe a family heirloom, the Norfolk Yeomanry was disbanded during her reign in 1849 and was raised again in 1901 by King Edward VII.
Ken, yes the vent picks (known as “prickers”) are the dart shaped objects.
Regards,
Andreas

Fernando K · 3rd March 2015, 08:07 PM

hello

Two issues. Indeed, for the first hallmark city is London, and then the lowercase letter corresponds to 1825.
The figure is not crowned GR but VR; confusion comes from considering the bottom of the V as a fifth Romano

Ask the punches (pickers) do not correspond to an officer of artillery?

Fernando K

thinreadline · 8th March 2015, 10:43 AM

The crossbelt has a Kings Crown cypher and refers to George V as has been observed above , and the pouch itself is has a Queen Victoria cypher . The hallmarks cannot therefore be as early as has been stated . The original purpose of the arrow shaped prickers was to jam into the vents of enemy guns in order to 'spike' them ie render them useless for the duration of the battle. They were originally carried by officers of Light Cavalry regiments for this purpose and the later silver versions were a symbolic reference to this once vital function.

thinreadline · 8th March 2015, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thinreadline

The crossbelt has a Kings Crown cypher and refers to George V as has been observed above , and the pouch itself is has a Queen Victoria cypher . The hallmarks cannot therefore be as early as has been stated . The original purpose of the arrow shaped prickers was to jam into the vents of enemy guns in order to 'spike' them ie render them useless for the duration of the battle. They were originally carried by officers of Light Cavalry regiments for this purpose and the later silver versions were a symbolic reference to this once vital function.

The leopard face hallmark indicates London and the k is for 1905 .

Ken Maddock · 11th March 2015, 09:12 AM

Just a taught
Is having a hallmark on the front of a silver item not a bit unusual
Regards
Ken

3rd March 2015, 04:03 AM	#1
Shakethetrees Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 363	The hallmark on the vent pick holder is for London, and is 20th century. I will have to get to my library to give you the correct date.

3rd March 2015, 07:58 AM	#2
Ken Maddock Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 104	Hi shakethetrees Which component part is the vent picker The arrow like objects? Thanks Ken .

3rd March 2015, 08:47 AM	#3
Andreas Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ionian Islands, Greece Posts: 96	It seems to be the shoulder belt and pouch of an officer of the Norfolk Yeomanry (The King's Own Royal Regiment). Their 1/1st Battalion fought at Gallipoli in 1915, which is probably how the belt found its way to Istanbul. This is consistent with the presence of George V’s cypher. The pouch is older, as the lid bears, as noted by Ken, the royal cypher of Queen Victoria. Maybe a family heirloom, the Norfolk Yeomanry was disbanded during her reign in 1849 and was raised again in 1901 by King Edward VII. Ken, yes the vent picks (known as “prickers”) are the dart shaped objects. Regards, Andreas

3rd March 2015, 08:07 PM	#4
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 672	hello Two issues. Indeed, for the first hallmark city is London, and then the lowercase letter corresponds to 1825. The figure is not crowned GR but VR; confusion comes from considering the bottom of the V as a fifth Romano Ask the punches (pickers) do not correspond to an officer of artillery? Fernando K

8th March 2015, 10:43 AM	#5
thinreadline Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Wirral Posts: 1,204	The crossbelt has a Kings Crown cypher and refers to George V as has been observed above , and the pouch itself is has a Queen Victoria cypher . The hallmarks cannot therefore be as early as has been stated . The original purpose of the arrow shaped prickers was to jam into the vents of enemy guns in order to 'spike' them ie render them useless for the duration of the battle. They were originally carried by officers of Light Cavalry regiments for this purpose and the later silver versions were a symbolic reference to this once vital function.

11th March 2015, 09:12 AM	#7
Ken Maddock Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Posts: 104	Just a taught Is having a hallmark on the front of a silver item not a bit unusual Regards Ken