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Old 9th December 2014, 12:03 PM   #1
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Last year I got a sword in my possession ...
Meaning you let it go, Jasper ?
What a pity .
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Old 9th December 2014, 12:39 PM   #2
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Hi Jasper,


My congratulations on the acquisition of such a historically important sword!

How would you actually date this impressive item - probably ca. 1540-50, as it is rather delicately wrought throughout, with quite thin quillons and a globular pommel?


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Old 9th December 2014, 08:36 PM   #3
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though there is very little scottish reference material, I came before having studied the parchment off at around 1550-1560 and Scottish. (it was offered as 18thC)
The round pommel and parallel oversized spiral bound grip characterize scottish two handers, see for example an almost simlar spirally grip of a two-hander in the castlemuseum of Edenburgh and the pommel and grip of the very famous 16th century hilted sword, hilt also reshaped in in the 19thC, which is (probably incorrectly?) attributed to William Wallace.
The parry rods with their characteristic finals have style similarities with a sword recently auctioned at Thomas del mar 3/12 lot 179; a two-hand sword possibly for the field german or swiss , circa 1550-60.
the last picture; 1520 Henry VIII’s tonlet armour is English, the elegant two handed sword with the round pommel and diamond shaped blade probably also.

@Fernando, of course I still have the sword

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... @Fernando, of course I still have the sword
My misunderstanding; so good for you
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Old 10th December 2014, 08:26 PM   #5
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ESSAYS CHIEFLY ON SCOTTISH ANTIQUITIES BY THE LATE JOHN STUART ESQUIRE OF INCHBRECK
PROFESSOR OF GREEK IN THE MARISCHAL COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY OF
ABERDEEN WITH A BRIEF SKETCH OF THE AUTHORS LIFE.

the sword under discussion is remarkably mentioned;

He also took an active part in the subsequent battle of Corrichie on the Hill of Fare about sixteen miles westward from Aberdeen on the 28th October 1562 where he fought on the side of Queen Mary then in Aberdeen and her natural brother the well known Regent Murray against the Earl of Huntly and his followers and is said also to have distinguished himself on that occasion by having killed with his two handed sword, still preserved in the family, the noble chief of the opposite party

this is absolutely amazing that the two hand sword is mentioned and in the first half of the 19th century still in possession of the family Stuart of Inchbreck.


For the complete article see the ebook;

http://books.google.nl/books?id=Of0H...page&q&f=false


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Old 11th December 2014, 10:48 AM   #6
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ESSAYS CHIEFLY ON SCOTTISH ANTIQUITIES BY THE LATE JOHN STUART ESQUIRE OF INCHBRECK
PROFESSOR OF GREEK IN THE MARISCHAL COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY OF
ABERDEEN WITH A BRIEF SKETCH OF THE AUTHORS LIFE.

the sword under discussion is remarkably mentioned;

He also took an active part in the subsequent battle of Corrichie on the Hill of Fare about sixteen miles westward from Aberdeen on the 28th October 1562 where he fought on the side of Queen Mary then in Aberdeen and her natural brother the well known Regent Murray against the Earl of Huntly and his followers and is said also to have distinguished himself on that occasion by having killed with his two handed sword, still preserved in the family, the noble chief of the opposite party

this is absolutely amazing that the two hand sword is mentioned and in the first half of the 19th century still in possession of the family Stuart of Inchbreck.


For the complete article see the ebook;

http://books.google.nl/books?id=Of0H...page&q&f=false


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Jasper
It is Christmas before Christmas.
You are a lucky guy , you have been able to make this sword tell you his history ,It is a dream to have this opportunity because most of the swords we could find have lost their history so it is not a sword you have today but much more a piece of history and with your research you have made the link with literature ,genealogy and your sword.
Yes your sword have a spirit and you are the man who can communicate with her !
Congratulation for those very efficient work..
Best

Jean-Luc
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Jasper
It is Christmas before Christmas.
You are a lucky guy , you have been able to make this sword tell you his history ,It is a dream to have this opportunity because most of the swords we could find have lost their history so it is not a sword you have today but much more a piece of history and with your research you have made the link with literature ,genealogy and your sword.
Yes your sword have a spirit and you are the man who can communicate with her !
Congratulation for those very efficient work..
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