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Old 20th November 2014, 03:06 AM   #1
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Thanks for all your input!

The problem is that our community is so small, that no respectable publisher will invest into a peer-reviewed journal that has no chance of a decent profit.

I recently published a paper on the origin of islamic saber in a Ukrainian journal published by a crazy guy who opened his private collection to the public and managed to corral a bunch of the top-class academicians to the Editorial Board of a journal he funded by himself:-)

He died suddenly and his friends rapidly put together a memorial issue in his honor, myself included. To have a paper in the same issue with Gorelik and Khudyakov is not something that happens every day:-)

But such astonishing people are few and far between.

Real academic weapon researchers publish books, not articles: that's where the money is.

So I am stuck...
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Old 23rd November 2014, 12:20 AM   #2
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Real academic weapon researchers publish books, not articles: that's where the money is.

So I am stuck...
Hi Ariel,

I must ask, with the above statement, is it publishing you want or money and fame?

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Old 23rd November 2014, 01:40 AM   #3
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I recently published a paper on the origin of islamic saber in a Ukrainian journal published by a crazy guy who opened his private collection to the public and managed to corral a bunch of the top-class academicians to the Editorial Board of a journal he funded by himself:-)
Ariel, the above sentence really makes me wonder, how would anyone besides a handful of people ever get to read a paper published in such a manner. No matter how well researched and written your paper is it may as well not exist to the rest of the world.
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Old 23rd November 2014, 06:57 PM   #4
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You are right: that was contributed more out of respect than of vanity:-)

No, I do not seek any financial gains. Having published quite a lot in my field in academic journals, I have never received a penny. On the contrary, I had to pay publication charges. Believe me, I know the rules of the game:-)


Perhaps, I was misunderstood.
Even book authors do not get their money and effort back.
The publishers obviously do: they are in a business mode and calculate how many individual buyers and libraries would get the book.

What I am talking about is that there is no academically-oriented journal dedicated to the field and providing a soapbox for the individual researchers.
It can easily be profitable, because of university libraries that are almost obligated to subscribe and individual subscriptions. The journals routinely charge publication fees. They are not a feeding trough, but a modest revenue source for the publisher.
If anybody has connections in the publishing world, desire and time, it might be reasonably realistic to establish one. And that would be a great service for the entire community and the field of historic arms research as well as a focus of academic endeavours.
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Old 24th November 2014, 12:07 AM   #5
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What I am talking about is that there is no academically-oriented journal dedicated to the field and providing a soapbox for the individual researchers.
Arms and armour is, academically speaking, a tiny and unpopular part of the larger fields it sits in. In many universities, there are no researchers who would be interested in such a journal, so it's far from obvious that such a journal would operate at a profit that would interest commercial publishers. The plethora of "peer-reviewed" (in name only) pay-to-publish open-access online journals doesn't seem to include any such journal.

But your "no" is excessive - there are journals (and you named two yourself: Gladius and Arms & Armour). Not many - I can only think of, in addition to your two, Waffen- und Kostümkunde, Journal of the Arms & Armour Society, and Journal of the Society of Archer-Antiquaries (even more specialised!). There was Journal of the Armour Research Society, but AFAIK, it didn't survive. But you don't need a dedicated journal; relevant papers appear in archaeology, ethnography, history, military history, art history, and metallurgy journals.

The solution to the wide-readership problem mentioned above is to publish in a journal that lets you retain copyright or at least the right to post an eprint online (preferably on 3rd-party servers, rather than just your own or your employer's server).
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Old 24th November 2014, 03:11 PM   #6
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Thanks for the ideas.
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