Interesting WW2 Philippine machete sword ?

spiral · 11th November 2014, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by drac2k

I can't disagree with anything you say except the eyelets on the scabbard could be plastic, but I think they are bone and purely for ornamentation; .

Bone wont do that job, in that manner at those dimesions, so there clearly plastic. Good close up photos would prove it though.

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Originally Posted by Shakethetrees

Now that I think of it, this "over and under" method of construction was used on pistol holsters from Mexico during the early 20th century..

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Originally Posted by drac2k

Very interesting ; was this strictly 19th Century Mexican or also Colonial Spanish ?

Where did 19 th century come from on this detail?

spiral

ausjulius · 24th November 2014, 03:37 PM

its form the Caribbean.. they can come with a hand a boot a rooster or a dogs head.. ..
generally the nonspanish speaking areas prefer these styles.. in Jamaica theyll call it a cutlass
the spanish style tooled sheaths are typical but ive seen wooden ones.. atleast for tourist items..

Rick · 24th November 2014, 04:17 PM

Aha, another vote for West Indies .
I'm not alone .

Tim Simmons · 24th November 2014, 04:41 PM

Yeah, that fist is common to West Africa. Often with the thumb poking out between the forefinger and the ring finger.

Ian · 25th November 2014, 04:04 AM

Because the ancestors of a substantial fraction of the West Indies' population came from Africa, and the West Indies were a British possession, does it not seem most logical to think this machete came from the West Indies? This would explain the apparent African motifs as well as why an English machete came to have this hilt.

Furthermore, we know of several examples of fist-hilted Mole machete blades of the same shape that came from the W.I. and wore similar leather sheaths. While more complicated explanations are always possible, a W.I. origin seems the simplest and most compelling to me.

24th November 2014, 03:37 PM	#2
ausjulius Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: musorian territory Posts: 438	its form the Caribbean.. they can come with a hand a boot a rooster or a dogs head.. .. generally the nonspanish speaking areas prefer these styles.. in Jamaica theyll call it a cutlass the spanish style tooled sheaths are typical but ive seen wooden ones.. atleast for tourist items..

24th November 2014, 04:17 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	Aha, another vote for West Indies . I'm not alone .

24th November 2014, 04:41 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,842	Yeah, that fist is common to West Africa. Often with the thumb poking out between the forefinger and the ring finger.

25th November 2014, 04:04 AM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Because the ancestors of a substantial fraction of the West Indies' population came from Africa, and the West Indies were a British possession, does it not seem most logical to think this machete came from the West Indies? This would explain the apparent African motifs as well as why an English machete came to have this hilt. Furthermore, we know of several examples of fist-hilted Mole machete blades of the same shape that came from the W.I. and wore similar leather sheaths. While more complicated explanations are always possible, a W.I. origin seems the simplest and most compelling to me.