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Old 5th November 2014, 09:35 PM   #1
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Looks like the value, and price, of ivory just increased again.

Or just decreased in the UK unless clearly pre. 1947... Id guess clearly pre. 1947 as you say will become more valuable!

Who wants a collection of stuff that brings police through your front door? Only those who are fools or think {or actualy may be.} above the law.

Some UK dealers & collectors{{Most are members of this forum.} Even if they don't declare such stuff here.} have apparently cleared out anything not definitely pre that date over the last few months.

Why take the risk... being the consensus.

Times they are a changing... {as someone said 40 or 50 years ago in a little ditty...}

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Old 9th November 2014, 01:25 PM   #2
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A couple of points:-

You can still import ivory into New Jersey provided you have shot the elephant yourself.

The UK Auctioneers subject to this prosecution have decided selling ivory is too risky and so now will not sell any at all.

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Old 9th November 2014, 03:24 PM   #3
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A couple of points:-

You can still import ivory into New Jersey provided you have shot the elephant yourself.

The UK Auctioneers subject to this prosecution have decided selling ivory is too risky and so now will not sell any at all.

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Indeed the rich have privilege's everywhere... Obamas friend was given a licence import a black rhino tusk earlier in the year.

The UK Auctioneer is an amusing chap, Hes gone from claiming it was a one off mistake & he was a scapegoat for apparently not naming the seller?
{Shades of Omerta!}To now proclaiming he will now "lead the way" in ending the Ivory trade in UK auctions!

Apparently 16 other London dealers are awaiting notice of prosecution.

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Old 10th November 2014, 05:27 PM   #4
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Indeed the rich have privilege's everywhere... Obamas friend was given a licence import a black rhino tusk earlier in the year.
Let's please leave the quasi-political/socio-political commentary at the door.

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Old 10th November 2014, 07:57 PM   #5
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Let's please leave the quasi-political/socio-political commentary at the door.

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Sure thing Andrew, I Certainly comprehend my Obama comment, as not necessary to say. {Although I had said it without thinking.}

Was the first part re. wealth acceptable? It seemed relevant? After all to fly to Africa, shoot a tusker, have the tusks removed & flown back to New Jersey , with the accompanying safari ,plane, hotel & "legal" paperwork fees probably come to over $150.000 minimum?

If not I apologise for that as well & it wont happen again.

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Old 10th November 2014, 08:03 PM   #6
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Sure thing Andrew, I Certainly comprehend my Obama comment, as not necessary to say. {Although I had said it without thinking.}

Was the first part re. wealth acceptable? It seemed relevant? After all to fly to Africa, shoot a tusker, have the tusks removed & flown back to New Jersey , with the accompanying safari ,plane, hotel & "legal" paperwork fees probably come to over $150.000 minimum?

If not I apologise for that as well & it wont happen again.

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It was the Obama comment, Jonathan. Socio-economic comments are fine.
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Old 10th November 2014, 10:22 PM   #7
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Marketing 101:-

if we make something desirable, the price will increase

nothing is as desirable as that which is socially unacceptable, even though that desirability may be found in only a segment of a population
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Old 10th November 2014, 10:41 PM   #8
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It was the Obama comment, Jonathan. Socio-economic comments are fine.
That's good then... It seemed relevant to me!

cheers!

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