The Upcoming, Development, and Use of Gun Rests/Forks, ca. 1430 to 1650

Cavalco · 1st October 2014, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fernando

These are not posts; these are treatises.
Danke Schoen, Miguel

I support told by Fernando... A "Treatise of arms"

Matchlock · 1st October 2014, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavalco

I support told by Fernando... A "Treatise of arms"

That's cute!

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Marcus den toom · 2nd October 2014, 10:31 AM

I has to be said Michl, this thread and you are amazing

Hopefully i am not too forward posting these pictures. They mainly depict the heavier guns/cannons of times long gone.

Attachment 1: One of the simplest ways to support such a heavy weapon was by means of wooden beams. Also on a side note, the archers shoot with what appears to be incendiary arrows!! from: A fortified town under siege. From the Swiss Amtliche Berner Chronik of 1483.

Attachment 2: An aimable cannon with stand and a smaller cannon on a simple but very widely used plank with wheels. Quit a lot of the manuscripts i see have this second design. The Hague, KB, 128 C 1 I fol. 403v Book 17: Chapter 1 Siege of a city (can't find the date on this one)

Attachment 3: Similar to the second picture, but this time the witnesses go bananas and look in fear. As Michl pointed out earlier in this thread, firearms where feared on both sides of the barrel

. Jean Boutillier, Somme rural, Bruges ca. 1471 (BnF, Français 202, fol. 15v)

Attachment 4: A rider, similar to the ones shown earlier, with gun and rest mounted on the horse/saddle. Mariano di Iacopo [Jacopo] (aka Mariano Taccola; and also referred to during his life as the 'Archimedes of Siena') (1381-1453 and in this instance after 1430).

Attachment 5: A town under attack, two soldiers with stocked hand guns (and one with a faint hook?). Note also the ignition iron (?). It is glowing red hot. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv...=%20Le%20Livre

Matchlock · 2nd October 2014, 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=Marcus den toom]I has to be said Michl, this thread and you are amazing

Hopefully i am not too forward posting these pictures. They mainly depict the heavier guns/cannons of times long gone.

Thank you so much, Marcus,

Those sources of illustration you've found are at least as amazing as the ones I gathered together over four decades - they're just great, and so are you!
You have been doing very fine, and your're learning so fast.
It makes an old Landsknecht veteran of weaponry, like me at 61, so proud of you!

Best wishes, my friend,
Michl

Marcus den toom · 15th September 2017, 04:10 PM

Furthering on this thread of Michl, i found these ignition irons
Some of them are show redhot, either straight or with a little pick/hook at the end.

Not many would have survived or can be identified i fear.

fernando · 15th September 2017, 04:45 PM

Very good, Marcus; keep going

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15th September 2017, 04:10 PM	#5
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Furthering on this thread of Michl, i found these ignition irons Some of them are show redhot, either straight or with a little pick/hook at the end. Not many would have survived or can be identified i fear. Attached Images

2nd October 2014, 10:31 AM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	I has to be said Michl, this thread and you are amazing Hopefully i am not too forward posting these pictures. They mainly depict the heavier guns/cannons of times long gone. Attachment 1: One of the simplest ways to support such a heavy weapon was by means of wooden beams. Also on a side note, the archers shoot with what appears to be incendiary arrows!! from: A fortified town under siege. From the Swiss Amtliche Berner Chronik of 1483. Attachment 2: An aimable cannon with stand and a smaller cannon on a simple but very widely used plank with wheels. Quit a lot of the manuscripts i see have this second design. The Hague, KB, 128 C 1 I fol. 403v Book 17: Chapter 1 Siege of a city (can't find the date on this one) Attachment 3: Similar to the second picture, but this time the witnesses go bananas and look in fear. As Michl pointed out earlier in this thread, firearms where feared on both sides of the barrel . Jean Boutillier, Somme rural, Bruges ca. 1471 (BnF, Français 202, fol. 15v) Attachment 4: A rider, similar to the ones shown earlier, with gun and rest mounted on the horse/saddle. Mariano di Iacopo [Jacopo] (aka Mariano Taccola; and also referred to during his life as the 'Archimedes of Siena') (1381-1453 and in this instance after 1430). Attachment 5: A town under attack, two soldiers with stocked hand guns (and one with a faint hook?). Note also the ignition iron (?). It is glowing red hot. http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv...=%20Le%20Livre

2nd October 2014, 02:04 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	[QUOTE=Marcus den toom]I has to be said Michl, this thread and you are amazing Hopefully i am not too forward posting these pictures. They mainly depict the heavier guns/cannons of times long gone. Thank you so much, Marcus, Those sources of illustration you've found are at least as amazing as the ones I gathered together over four decades - they're just great, and so are you! You have been doing very fine, and your're learning so fast. It makes an old Landsknecht veteran of weaponry, like me at 61, so proud of you! Best wishes, my friend, Michl

15th September 2017, 04:45 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very good, Marcus; keep going .