Three new talibon enter my collection

Battara · 29th August 2014, 01:33 AM

In the last link, I think the one with the horn hilt ands monster head is actually from Bicol. They use monster heads too.....

Which then brings up an interesting question: could your horn hilt be from Bicol? The head is not the typical type often found on Bicolano pieces, but you never know......

Sajen · 29th August 2014, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

In the last link, I think the one with the horn hilt ands monster head is actually from Bicol. They use monster heads too.....

Which then brings up an interesting question: could your horn hilt be from Bicol? The head is not the typical type often found on Bicolano pieces, but you never know......

You could be correct that the one from Barry is from Bicol, maybe Barry can chime in and can tell us more.

Do you ever have seen a talibon from Bicol? Or you think only the handle is maybe Bicolano? Frankly said the sword look in all parts original to my eyes so far to seen by the seller pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

Battara · 29th August 2014, 03:32 PM

I am only suggesting the possibility that the hilt and perhaps the blade may be Bicolano. The scabbard is certainly tailbone/garab.

Sajen · 29th August 2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Battara

I am only suggesting the possibility that the hilt and perhaps the blade may be Bicolano. The scabbard is certainly tailbone/garab.

When the blade is beveled like the seller stated I doubt that that the blade is Bicolano. We will see when the sword arrived at the destination if the fit inside the scabbard is original.

Best,
Detlef

Robert · 29th August 2014, 08:57 PM

I agree that the hilt is more than likely original to the blade. What I am waiting to hear is whether the blade fits the scabbard correctly. It might not prove that it is the original scabbard, but will at least show that it was more than likely made for this piece. One thing brought up was that this having a horn hilt was unusual, I have never noticed horn hilts to be unusual on talibong though more with wooden hilts seem to be available, but that looks to be the norm on most Philippine pieces. The carving on the hilt does seem to have more of an Indonesian look to it as Ian has already pointed out. The face reminds me of some of the tenegre hilts that I have seen only narrower and that could possibly be due to nothing more than the person who did the carving adding it after the hilt had originally been carved in a more traditional style.

We will know more about it after it has arrived and Detlef has had a chance to clean, inspect and post clear and detailed photos that will help in its identification.

Best,
Robert

P.S. It is still my favorite of the group.

Sajen · 29th August 2014, 09:13 PM

Agree in all points Robert!

Battara · 30th August 2014, 05:58 PM

Good points folks. Besides, when it comes in, we find the hilt is from Antartica!

29th August 2014, 01:33 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	In the last link, I think the one with the horn hilt ands monster head is actually from Bicol. They use monster heads too..... Which then brings up an interesting question: could your horn hilt be from Bicol? The head is not the typical type often found on Bicolano pieces, but you never know......

29th August 2014, 03:32 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I am only suggesting the possibility that the hilt and perhaps the blade may be Bicolano. The scabbard is certainly tailbone/garab.

29th August 2014, 08:57 PM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	I agree that the hilt is more than likely original to the blade. What I am waiting to hear is whether the blade fits the scabbard correctly. It might not prove that it is the original scabbard, but will at least show that it was more than likely made for this piece. One thing brought up was that this having a horn hilt was unusual, I have never noticed horn hilts to be unusual on talibong though more with wooden hilts seem to be available, but that looks to be the norm on most Philippine pieces. The carving on the hilt does seem to have more of an Indonesian look to it as Ian has already pointed out. The face reminds me of some of the tenegre hilts that I have seen only narrower and that could possibly be due to nothing more than the person who did the carving adding it after the hilt had originally been carved in a more traditional style. We will know more about it after it has arrived and Detlef has had a chance to clean, inspect and post clear and detailed photos that will help in its identification. Best, Robert P.S. It is still my favorite of the group.

29th August 2014, 09:13 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Agree in all points Robert!

30th August 2014, 05:58 PM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Good points folks. Besides, when it comes in, we find the hilt is from Antartica!