Kris & Sundang twist core Ganja or Gonjo

Gustav · 14th August 2014, 08:37 AM

Gavin, you surely have found this:

www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8087

Gavin Nugent · 14th August 2014, 09:02 AM

Thank you Gustav,

I did see this through twistcore searches. I am surprised the discussion ended there.

I saw a hint of twistcore Gonjo in this rare example that Maurice presented, post #25.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...stcore+Sundang

These two and mine also all share a similar chevron layering at the base of the blade or differing quality.

Of all the Moro Twistcore Kris I viewed within these pages, I could not find one twisted Gonjo.

So David, until such time a Moro example is placed here, this might suit you better in the Keris forum

David · 17th August 2014, 02:08 AM

Well then, let's see if this thread gets any traction here on the keris forum since this is technically an Indonesian Keris.
As was suggested earlier i believe, more images would probably be helpful to the discussion.

A. G. Maisey · 17th August 2014, 03:21 AM

I suggest that adequate photos of the item under discussion would help a lot.

Personally I cannot see sufficient from the posted photo to permit me to make any comment.

A full length photo of the entire keris + a close-up of the sorsoran including gonjo + a close up of the complete top and complete side of the gonjo, all photos taken in full shade would perhaps give sufficiently clear images to permit comment.

Gavin Nugent · 17th August 2014, 05:17 AM

Thanks David,

See what comes about this specific aspect of these Sundang types.

Gustav was good enough to bring one forth from Michael’s earlier postings...that conversation didn't amount to much after presenting the entire piece...Hopefully it might gain traction now 5 years on.
I have linked the other twistie Gongo, albeit an unclear image shown in the thread...

Other Twist core Sundang Gonjo (Or a Kris if it exists) would be more helpful to the discussion about twistcore Gonjo.

Here is the face pattern.

VVV · 17th August 2014, 12:09 PM

Back home again with my swords...
I have now checked all my twist core Moro Kris and Malay Keris Sundang and none, except the one in the link above, have any twist core ganja.
I find this a bit surprising because some of my Moro kris are quite old and otherwise "Keris-like".

Michael

Gavin Nugent · 17th August 2014, 03:52 PM

It is a strange thing Michael...I am sure that there would have been twist core off cuts available at the forge with which to make Moro Kris Ganja....

17th August 2014, 05:17 AM	#5
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Thanks David, See what comes about this specific aspect of these Sundang types. Gustav was good enough to bring one forth from Michael’s earlier postings...that conversation didn't amount to much after presenting the entire piece...Hopefully it might gain traction now 5 years on. I have linked the other twistie Gongo, albeit an unclear image shown in the thread... Other Twist core Sundang Gonjo (Or a Kris if it exists) would be more helpful to the discussion about twistcore Gonjo. Here is the face pattern. Attached Images

14th August 2014, 08:37 AM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,295	Gavin, you surely have found this: www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8087

14th August 2014, 09:02 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Thank you Gustav, I did see this through twistcore searches. I am surprised the discussion ended there. I saw a hint of twistcore Gonjo in this rare example that Maurice presented, post #25. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...stcore+Sundang These two and mine also all share a similar chevron layering at the base of the blade or differing quality. Of all the Moro Twistcore Kris I viewed within these pages, I could not find one twisted Gonjo. So David, until such time a Moro example is placed here, this might suit you better in the Keris forum Last edited by SwordsAntiqueWeapons; 14th August 2014 at 09:50 AM.

17th August 2014, 02:08 AM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,237	Well then, let's see if this thread gets any traction here on the keris forum since this is technically an Indonesian Keris. As was suggested earlier i believe, more images would probably be helpful to the discussion.

17th August 2014, 03:21 AM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,056	I suggest that adequate photos of the item under discussion would help a lot. Personally I cannot see sufficient from the posted photo to permit me to make any comment. A full length photo of the entire keris + a close-up of the sorsoran including gonjo + a close up of the complete top and complete side of the gonjo, all photos taken in full shade would perhaps give sufficiently clear images to permit comment.

17th August 2014, 12:09 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Back home again with my swords... I have now checked all my twist core Moro Kris and Malay Keris Sundang and none, except the one in the link above, have any twist core ganja. I find this a bit surprising because some of my Moro kris are quite old and otherwise "Keris-like". Michael

17th August 2014, 03:52 PM	#7
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	It is a strange thing Michael...I am sure that there would have been twist core off cuts available at the forge with which to make Moro Kris Ganja....