Athabascan knife

archer · 5th August 2014, 12:15 AM

Hi, try this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13961

In it you can see the reinforced ridge started in copper appear for no reason in steel. the double bladed shakats also seem to lean toward fluted on both sides ?? Haida?? Fluted on one side only and I've never found a connection
to the single grooved daggers. The voluted curled double pommel seems to
appear throughout history in various locations around the world. There should be other threads regarding these knives here somewhere. Steve

LJ · 5th August 2014, 08:37 PM

Very many thanks for the replies, and the leads to very interesting information. It has sorted out a few issues in my mind.

I'm now wondering whether my first prejudice (that the copper ones were 'originals', later copied in iron) was right; were daggers in fact made in both metals at the same period, but maybe used for different purposes?

The only thing I might add is this picture I found today in Jonathan King's book "First Peoples First Contacts". Engraved after a sketch by Frederick Whymper done in 1867, it shows Koyukon or Tanana River men hunting from canoes using these daggers

5th August 2014, 12:15 AM	#1
archer Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 373	Three styles of daggers Hi, try this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13961 In it you can see the reinforced ridge started in copper appear for no reason in steel. the double bladed shakats also seem to lean toward fluted on both sides ?? Haida?? Fluted on one side only and I've never found a connection to the single grooved daggers. The voluted curled double pommel seems to appear throughout history in various locations around the world. There should be other threads regarding these knives here somewhere. Steve

5th August 2014, 08:37 PM	#2
LJ Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 93	Very many thanks for the replies, and the leads to very interesting information. It has sorted out a few issues in my mind. I'm now wondering whether my first prejudice (that the copper ones were 'originals', later copied in iron) was right; were daggers in fact made in both metals at the same period, but maybe used for different purposes? The only thing I might add is this picture I found today in Jonathan King's book "First Peoples First Contacts". Engraved after a sketch by Frederick Whymper done in 1867, it shows Koyukon or Tanana River men hunting from canoes using these daggers Attached Images