Finally...Central Luzon origin

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Sajen

I also own one of this bolos but with some difference, the brass ferrule is round and the tang don't go through the hilt. I think it is a WWII area piece, the blade has seen use. Here some pictures.

Regards,
Detlef

Thanks Detlef for showing your interesting older example. In answer to your question about the partial versus full tang, yes I have seen a couple of other examples with this arrangement. That's why I said "almost always full tang" in the original post here. Also, I have seen round ferrules before, although they tend to be less common than the polygonal ones. With regards to the number of sides on the ferrule, it is usually seven (matching the handle), but I have also seen six and (I think) eight.

I notice that your hilt has seven sides, so perhaps the panday ran out of seven-sided ferrules the day he was making this one and put on a round one instead.

Ian

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Ian

I notice that your hilt has seven sides, so perhaps the panday ran out of seven-sided ferrules the day he was making this one and put on a round one instead.

Maybe, who knows!
In this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=luzon
post #14 is shown another nice example.

Regards,
Detlef

[Battara]

Interesting observations folks! Maraming Salamat to you all! Now I know: Pampangan.......

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Battara

Interesting observations folks! Maraming Salamat to you all! Now I know: Pampangan.......

Walang anuman Jose

[Ian]

In looking for other examples I went through Artzi's old sales on Oriental Arms web site. Could only find one possible example (no. 11156) shown here:

[Robert]

Hello Ian, It would be my opinion that with this particular blade style and the tooled leather scabbard that this piece is most likely from Batangas and not Pampanga like the others shown in this post. I am in the middle of moving my collection as my wife has graciously consented to my taking over an entire room dedicated solely for its display. As of now most of the items are still stored in boxes but I will try to find the other two examples, take photos and post them here.

Best,
Robert

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Robert

... this particular blade style and the tooled leather scabbard that this piece is most likely from Batangas and not Pampanga like the others shown in this post. ...

Yes, Robert, I agree that it could well be from Batangas. Hilts made of horn are quite common there, although the leather sheath and belt seem to have been fairly widespread in the late 19th/early 20th C. and one can find many different styles with such sheaths--"Negrito," Ilocano, etc.

Ian

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Ian

In looking for other examples I went through Artzi's old sales on Oriental Arms web site. Could only find one possible example (no. 11156) shown here:

I am with Robert here, most probable a Batangas piece.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Here another nice old example sold recently by ebay.

[Ian]

Originally Posted by Sajen

In this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=luzon
post #14 is shown another nice example.

Regards,
Detlef

Thanks Detlef.

Yes, another match. The hilt and ferrule are the same, the blade form is similar to several posted below, and the scabbard has the same semicircular motif with radiating lines.

Ian