Figural !

[rasjid]

Here's mine.
Unfortunately the bottom part of the ivory has been cut away ( or maybe eaten by rat.... not sure).

[A. G. Maisey]

A few more.

[Bejo]

Hi,

This is my figural hilt collection. Any idea about this hilt origin?

Thank you,

Best regards,

Joe

[Marcokeris]

Originally Posted by Bejo

Hi,

This is my figural hilt collection. Any idea about this hilt origin?

Thank you,

Best regards,

Joe

It could be East Java

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Bejo

Any idea about this hilt origin?

Hello Joe,

your hilt could show Bima, in many books it's described as this and like Marco said could originate from East Java.
Here my example, sadly with carved away crown/bun.

Regards,
Detlef

[Sajen]

Some Jawa Deman handles, variations in style, material and origin. But the most coming from Sumatra. Since they are in display now I've thought to share some pictures.

[Roland_M]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Some Jawa Deman handles, variations in style, material and origin. But the most coming from Sumatra. Since they are in display now I've thought to share some pictures.

Hello Detlef,

very nice collection and presentation!

Here is my unknown silver hilt, very detailed and made of a massive piece of silver, could be a kind of Cocetan. Maybe someone knows more.

No better pics, sorry.


Best wishes,
Roland

[Sajen]

Here the other Sumatra display, need to get cleaned again.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Roland_M

...very nice collection and presentation!

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Roland_M

Here is my unknown silver hilt, very detailed and made of a massive piece of silver, could be a kind of Cocetan. Maybe someone knows more.

I doubt that someone will be able to name this hilt. Balinese "carvers" use often their own interpretation of traditional figures for their handles.

Regards,
Detlef

[David]

Originally Posted by Roland_M

Here is my unknown silver hilt, very detailed and made of a massive piece of silver, could be a kind of Cocetan. Maybe someone knows more.
No better pics, sorry.

I can't say i have ever seen a Balinese hilt with this style and figure. Seems very unusual to me. I don't think this was intended to be a Kocetan. Only 2 arms (or legs) and their appear to be talons on the hands/feet.
Can you make some better photos of this hilt Roland. I would love to see it better.

[Bejo]

Originally Posted by Marcokeris

It could be East Java

Hello Marco,

Thank you for your help.
There is a hilt that you posted earlier that looks similar with mine. In reply 58, picture number 4. Maybe it comes from same region.

Originally Posted by Sajen

Hello Joe,

your hilt could show Bima, in many books it's described as this and like Marco said could originate from East Java.
Here my example, sadly with carved away crown/bun.

Regards,
Detlef

Hello Detlef,

Thank you for your explanation. Yes, both of the hilts look similar. I have another hilts that maybe from East Java, too. Quite unique to me, one of the hand holds a mask/ head. The other hand holds a blade.

I am just focusing at Javanese tosan aji right now, so I don't know about other region's hilt. But your collection is very nice

Originally Posted by Roland_M

Hello Detlef,

very nice collection and presentation!

Here is my unknown silver hilt, very detailed and made of a massive piece of silver, could be a kind of Cocetan. Maybe someone knows more.

No better pics, sorry.


Best wishes,
Roland

Hello Roland,

I am curious about what figural in your hilt.
Is that hilt ressemble a dragon?



One of my Madura hilt collection for patrem (maybe Donoriko?). Also a hilt from West Java style. A friend of mine told me it is called Ganesha.


Best regards,

Joe

[Roland_M]

Originally Posted by Bejo

Hello Roland,

I am curious about what figural in your hilt.
Is that hilt ressemble a dragon?

Best regards,

Joe

Hello Joe,

Yes I think so. It seems to be the birth of a dragon. The dragons tail is a 13 lok-blade (at least I think so) with a beautiful Ganesha-figure, no elephant, an Indian Ganesha with four arms. The hilt was formed from a massive piece of silver.


Best wishes,
Roland

[A. G. Maisey]

I believe investigation will show that the hilt is fabricated from quite light sheet silver, then chased and filled with some supportive mixture, usually jabung.

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Bejo

I have another hilts that maybe from East Java, too. Quite unique to me, one of the hand holds a mask/ head. The other hand holds a blade.

Hello Joe,

this could be a hilt from Cirebon or from the North-East coast of Java. Like you said byself, a very unique handle and very nice.

Regards,
Detlef

[A. G. Maisey]

Image below:- 12.5cm high, 225gm.