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Marcus den toom · 10th July 2014, 10:43 AM

some more,

Marcus den toom · 15th July 2014, 01:46 PM

A site where you can search trough copper prints.

http://kk.haum-bs.de/

Also these pictures from pinterest i wanted to share.

Marcus den toom · 15th July 2014, 07:54 PM

some incendiiary devives deployed? Andi?

and other stuff

Marcus den toom · 2nd September 2014, 08:33 AM

Any thoughts on the above and below images?

I reposted the one with the city under siege... it looks like some wooden pole gun?
The third image is black powder in a "mortar" beeing prepaired/made.

Andi · 2nd September 2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcus den toom

some incendiiary devives deployed? Andi?

Probably some burning fire balls?

The poled weapon in Michaels post of the Manuscript Judith and Holofernes of 1430 may be something like an early fire or tar lance (German: Pechlanze or Stumrlanze) or an incendiary torch. I would definitevely not interprete this weapon as a handgun.

Below a detail of Manuscript BNF Français 20090 Bible Historiale de Jean de Berry Folio 416r Dating 1380-1390 Bibliothèque Nationale Paris, France. Look at the red suited warrior on the lower right corner holding a burning weapon in his hands.

Marcus den toom · 3rd September 2014, 06:53 AM

Hi Andi,

Though i see it as an amazing compliment those pictures where not supplied by Michl...

How would such a incendiary torch work Andi? It seems to me that the burning mass should be propelled some way before it gets trough and over the city walls?

Evgeny_K · 3rd September 2014, 03:38 PM

Firearms at Dithmarscher Landesmuseum Meldorf, Germany.
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/471118810992928088/

Medieval breech loaders from / at Stockholm Sweden
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/471118810992928086/

http://www.pinterest.com/opheliepeco...val-artillery/

10th July 2014, 10:43 AM	#1
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	some more,

15th July 2014, 01:46 PM	#2
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	A site where you can search trough copper prints. http://kk.haum-bs.de/ Also these pictures from pinterest i wanted to share.

15th July 2014, 07:54 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	some incendiiary devives deployed? Andi? and other stuff

2nd September 2014, 08:33 AM	#4
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Any thoughts on the above and below images? I reposted the one with the city under siege... it looks like some wooden pole gun? The third image is black powder in a "mortar" beeing prepaired/made.

3rd September 2014, 06:53 AM	#6
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	Hi Andi, Though i see it as an amazing compliment those pictures where not supplied by Michl... How would such a incendiary torch work Andi? It seems to me that the burning mass should be propelled some way before it gets trough and over the city walls?

3rd September 2014, 03:38 PM	#7
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 213	Firearms at Dithmarscher Landesmuseum Meldorf, Germany. http://www.pinterest.com/pin/471118810992928088/ Medieval breech loaders from / at Stockholm Sweden http://www.pinterest.com/pin/471118810992928086/ http://www.pinterest.com/opheliepeco...val-artillery/