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Old 2nd June 2014, 06:00 PM   #1
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Dear Jean,

Some, if not most -- of Cirebon styles of warangka came from West Javan style. If you go to Geusan Ulun Museum of Sumedang, one of the most complete museum in Western part of Java which still preserve old specimens of West Javan (Pasundan) kerises, you may still find some example of old West Javan warangka style there. Some of their kerises are heirlooms of Pajajaran kingdom....

These are some of the specimens of the old West Javan styles of warangka from the Geusan Ulun Museum. You may compare to your specimens below..

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Pak Ganja,
Very interesting, thanks and please show us more of these little-known krisses!
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Dear Jean,

Here are some other specimens from Geusan Ulun Collection. I went there quite a couple of times. And the last time, I went to the museum..... with our friend, Dave Henkel last February....

Second from right, it could be Balinese...

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Default Specimens from Geusan Ulun Museum...

The blades, most of the sizes are "corok" (oversized?), of more than 40 cm of length... Usually they wear in front of right thigh (they call it this way, "disoren" or in Central Javanese.... "anganggar")... * Correction: left thigh, not right thigh (Thank you, David for the correction)

These are some other specimens from Geusan Ulun Museum...
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Default Curuk Aul....

And many other specimens.... You may look at them, if you visit the museum in the centre of Sumedang. Former palace of Geusan Ulun, the last king of Sumedang -- before degraded to "kabupaten" (lower than kingdom) in the Mataram Era....

One of the most interesting heirlooms were, pusakas from Pajajaran kingdom, before Pajajaran kingdom was destroyed by Banten kingdom. These pusaka were brought to Sumedang by special envoy from Pajajaran called as "Kandaga Lante" or envoy who brought pusaka from Pajajaran.

The form of the pusakas from Pajajaran are very interesting, combination between "golok" and keris. They call their pusaka as "Curuk Aul" or "Forefinger Ghost"....

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But, the main pusaka of Geusan Ulun is a big sized keris they call it as "Ki Dukun" (The Shaman) of luk five keris, beautiful keris, longer than normal javanese keris with gold plated sarangka or sheath....

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The special envoy of Pajajaran, it said, also brought all the important attributes of Pajajaran -- to symbolized the hand over of the kingdom before the collapse of Pajajaran to the attack of Surosowan or Banten Kingdom (the attack of coalition of Islamic "pesisiran" or coastal kingdoms of Demak, Cirebon and Banten) -- such as, crowns and some other gold attributes...

The crown of Hindhu kingdom of Pajajaran, they call it as "Bino Kasih" Crown, still kept until nowadays.....

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The blades, most of the size is "corok" (oversized?), of more than 40 cm of length... Usually they wear in front of right thigh (they call it this way, "disoren" or in Central Javanese.... "anganggar")...
Hi Ganja. Thanks so much for all the wonderful info and images in this very informative thread. I would like to point out though that the video of old images you posted shows the keris worn on the LEFT side in just about every image.
Great info though. Please keep it coming.
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... I would like to point out though that the video of old images you posted shows the keris worn on the LEFT side in just about every image.
Great info though. Please keep it coming.
Dear David,

Yes, yes, yes...... You are right. Exactly. "Nyoren" always on left thigh. And that is one of the reasons, why Sundanese kerises most of them are longer in blade size. Like swords. Sometimes, they wear smaller kerises at rear. But many more on their thigh.

These other specimen below, is Cirebonese but could be called Sundanese too, collection of Pancaniti Museum of Indramayu, about less than 100 km from Cirebon...

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Default Ki Buyut Sidum....

Another precious heirloom of West Javan keris, also kept in Pancaniti Museum, Indramayu -- very small and temporary museum at the front of the office of Bupati (Regent) of Indramayu -- "Nagasasra" keris but with luk 9 (Nagasasra Majapahit and Mataram, usually luk 13). The sarangka or sheath is Cirebonese. Very special sarangka, with "padma" (lotus) ornaments at the upper part of the sheath. They call the keris as "Ki Buyut Sidum" attributed to the last nobleman, owner of this high quality keris -- although most of the kinatah or gold ornaments are worn out...

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