Bagobo Shield

Battara · 29th May 2014, 03:08 AM

Thanks Detlef. Again when I take a break once a week from doing other people's stuff and changing how I do my lousy photo editing skills.......

Sajen · 29th May 2014, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara

Thanks Detlef. Again when I take a break once a week from doing other people's stuff and changing how I do my lousy photo editing skills.......

I think it's just the iphone, a camera around $100 can do a much better job!

Regards,
Detlef

kronckew · 29th May 2014, 10:39 AM

nice shield - is it upside down? handgrip is below the centre of gravity in the pics...

CharlesS · 29th May 2014, 12:30 PM

I remember this one Jose. You did a great job restoring the top and especially matching up the colors. I am sure that it was no easy job to find the appropriate wood.

Good work.

Battara · 29th May 2014, 07:04 PM

Thank you folks.

Believe or not, Detlef, I use such a camera but am revising my editing techniques.

Kroncew, I have seen old pictures of these in Bagobo warriors' hands, and this is the side they have up with rounded side on the bottom. It appears several museums and catalogs have them upside down. However, I noticed that the tops of these are mortise and tenoned on lashed with rattan. I wonder if in actual use they cut the rattan, which means that it becomes more balanced.

Charles, I got lucky with the wood, but matching the patina close enough, that was hard........

kronckew · 30th May 2014, 08:56 AM

i've seen a couple of photos with the flat end down, and some where the grip looks more central where it wouldn't matter. it's possible that the one you have has the grip at the physical balance point rather than the geometric. how does it feel in the hand either way round if you move with it? the narrow top section does seem to be an afterthought. is it thinner than the rest? that would affect balance.

i'm only familiar with symmetrical roman and viking shields where the hand grip is at the geometric and physical balance centre rather than ones like this which are vertically asymmetrical.

Oliver Pinchot · 30th May 2014, 03:25 PM

Jose,

You did a beautiful job restoring this rare shield, thanks for posting images of it. From the color I would guess it's mahogany? The period photos I've seen invariably show it with the rounded edge down, that is when being held by a Bagobo.

29th May 2014, 03:08 AM	#1
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Thanks Detlef. Again when I take a break once a week from doing other people's stuff and changing how I do my lousy photo editing skills.......

29th May 2014, 10:39 AM	#3
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	nice shield - is it upside down? handgrip is below the centre of gravity in the pics...

29th May 2014, 12:30 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	I remember this one Jose. You did a great job restoring the top and especially matching up the colors. I am sure that it was no easy job to find the appropriate wood. Good work.

29th May 2014, 07:04 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	Thank you folks. Believe or not, Detlef, I use such a camera but am revising my editing techniques. Kroncew, I have seen old pictures of these in Bagobo warriors' hands, and this is the side they have up with rounded side on the bottom. It appears several museums and catalogs have them upside down. However, I noticed that the tops of these are mortise and tenoned on lashed with rattan. I wonder if in actual use they cut the rattan, which means that it becomes more balanced. Charles, I got lucky with the wood, but matching the patina close enough, that was hard........

30th May 2014, 08:56 AM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	i've seen a couple of photos with the flat end down, and some where the grip looks more central where it wouldn't matter. it's possible that the one you have has the grip at the physical balance point rather than the geometric. how does it feel in the hand either way round if you move with it? the narrow top section does seem to be an afterthought. is it thinner than the rest? that would affect balance. i'm only familiar with symmetrical roman and viking shields where the hand grip is at the geometric and physical balance centre rather than ones like this which are vertically asymmetrical.

30th May 2014, 03:25 PM	#7
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 462	Jose, You did a beautiful job restoring this rare shield, thanks for posting images of it. From the color I would guess it's mahogany? The period photos I've seen invariably show it with the rounded edge down, that is when being held by a Bagobo.