Help me to appraise this Keris

Jean · 19th May 2014, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by David

I can understand why Kerner might suppose this as most of the time i have seen this sheath form there is a Bima hilt involved, though usually one of those really cheap looking Bima hilts that is probably late 20th century in origin. Can't say i've ever seen a nice looking blade in such an ensemble, but if you have such an example i would love to see it.

Yes, there could well be a confusion between the god Bima and the city Bima indeed

. I will try to find and send a pic of such a kris which belonged to Martin. And Alan is probably right that these krisses originate from Java, I own a rather similar one but with a different design and decoration, see attached pic.
Regards

David · 19th May 2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean

I own a rather similar one but with a different design and decoration, see attached pic.

Sorry Jean, but i am having a hard time seeing any similarity between your ensemble and Isumairuchiru's other than the fact that both have some reproussé work on the sheath stem. Since reproussé work is prevalent on pendoks throughout the region i am afraid i do not see the purpose in the comparison.

Yours looks very nice btw.

A. G. Maisey · 19th May 2014, 03:06 PM

Yes David, chalk and cheese, but I think what Jean is trying to demonstrate is that on his the scabbard was definitely made in Jogja, not only is the embossing very probably Jogja, but they've even used a Jogja motif.

isumairuchiru · 19th May 2014, 04:41 PM

This pic attchment. Is there any connection to the one Jean post or same originate.

David · 19th May 2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Yes David, chalk and cheese, but I think what Jean is trying to demonstrate is that on his the scabbard was definitely made in Jogja, not only is the embossing very probably Jogja, but they've even used a Jogja motif.

Gotcha! Thanks for that clarification Alan.

Jean · 25th May 2014, 08:49 PM

I attach the pics of 2 krisses identified as krisses Bima, and I hope that the new owners will not object to share them...

The other pieces also identified as krisses Bima in the same collection are similar to Balinese krisses but the scabbards are also fully covered with embossed metal.
Best regards

isumairuchiru · 26th May 2014, 01:40 AM

Jean ...thanks for thae picture. I never thought it would exist since i have search up and down to locate similarity of my keris...you have done a wonderful research. I believe not many ppl have seen this kind of dress.

David · 26th May 2014, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by isumairuchiru

I believe not many ppl have seen this kind of dress.

I don't mean to be contrary Isumairuchiru, but this dress is fairly common. I see examples of these for sale on eBay on a fairly regular basis.

Jean · 29th May 2014, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by isumairuchiru

Jean ...thanks for thae picture. I never thought it would exist since i have search up and down to locate similarity of my keris...you have done a wonderful research. I believe not many ppl have seen this kind of dress.

Hello,
There is one kris very similar to yours but fitted with a proper "Bima" hilt for sale on a Dutch site.
Best regards

19th May 2014, 04:41 PM	#4
isumairuchiru Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7	This pic attchment. Is there any connection to the one Jean post or same originate. Attached Images

25th May 2014, 08:49 PM	#6
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	I attach the pics of 2 krisses identified as krisses Bima, and I hope that the new owners will not object to share them... The other pieces also identified as krisses Bima in the same collection are similar to Balinese krisses but the scabbards are also fully covered with embossed metal. Best regards Attached Images Last edited by Jean; 26th May 2014 at 09:16 AM.

19th May 2014, 03:06 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,991	Yes David, chalk and cheese, but I think what Jean is trying to demonstrate is that on his the scabbard was definitely made in Jogja, not only is the embossing very probably Jogja, but they've even used a Jogja motif.

26th May 2014, 01:40 AM	#7
isumairuchiru Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 7	Jean ...thanks for thae picture. I never thought it would exist since i have search up and down to locate similarity of my keris...you have done a wonderful research. I believe not many ppl have seen this kind of dress.