Tulwar for Id please

[Ibrahiim al Balooshi]

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

Ibrahiim thank you for the link, and its good to revisit those images of this museum's collections, pretty breathtaking weaponry.

As you note, the lettering in linear configuration and parallel see on the khanda in #24 is in sense probably of the type which appears to be duplicated in the blade of this tulwar.

The blade on that khanda (in #24) does appear to be 'firangi', that is European, and these kinds of inscriptions are often acrostics, or using the first letter of words in invocations, phrases or slogans. These are often enclosed by various interpretations of the cross, in the case on this tulwar apparently the four dot version .

At the base of the inscribed letters on the khanda blade, these are much broader and inscribed rather than stamped, but of the acrostic type, and the large capital 'S' letters are believed to represent 'sacrificum sanctum' or such abbreviated and associated inclusions along with the large Greek cross.

While these letters in this tulwar are apparently very worn and indiscernible it does become tempting to think this blade may indeed be an earlier European blade rather than Indian produced with such influences.

Thanks Jim, I suspected that this was a more important and older blade than a lot of run of the mill Tulvar now hitting the markets and as other regions slow down ...the big suppliers from India, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran seem to be filling the void... in the case of items hitting souks here...viz; Muttrah, Salalah and Sharjah. Thanks for researching the style and possible meaning also...

It is very much appreciated how much time and trouble you go through to expand on these ethnographics and it must be an inspiration to new people and other members alike. Bravo Sir !!

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

[Claus]

Thank you all for the comments and the great link to the wallace collection.
Could the dimensions of the blade give a clue for the manufacturing country of the blade?
Maybe the European trade blades are longer/thicker than the native blades?

Greetings
Claus

[Jim McDougall]

Thank you so much Ibrahiim for the kind words!!! I very much enjoy what I do, and am glad if my efforts are helpful. I have always learned a lot from everyone here as well so it is a good exchange

Claus glad the information shared here is helpful.
Actually your question on the thickness of European blades is well placed, however as to the dimensions, it is difficult to determine nationality or region with blades as far as I have known. This is usually compounded by the often constant remounting, refurbishing and sometimes entire reprofiling in their working lives.

[Jim McDougall]

Thank you so much Ibrahiim for the kind words!!! I very much enjoy what I do, and am glad if my efforts are helpful. I have always learned a lot from everyone here as well so it is a good exchange

Claus glad the information shared here is helpful.
Actually your question on the thickness of European blades is well placed, however as to the dimensions, it is difficult to determine nationality or region with blades as far as I have known. This is usually compounded by the often constant remounting, refurbishing and sometimes entire reprofiling in their working lives.

[Jim McDougall]

Thank you so much Ibrahiim for the kind words!!! I very much enjoy what I do, and am glad if my efforts are helpful. I have always learned a lot from everyone here as well so it is a good exchange

Claus glad the information shared here is helpful.
Actually your question on the thickness of European blades is well placed, however as to the dimensions, it is difficult to determine nationality or region with blades as far as I have known. This is usually compounded by the often constant remounting, refurbishing and sometimes entire reprofiling in their working lives.

[Claus]

Hello again,

finally i had the opportunity to examine the Tulwar and take new Pictures.
At the bottom of the Scabbard is a pattern.
Looks like the handle was painted black. Everywhere on the handle rests of colour are finding.
The Blade is of a nice Quality. Strong and flexible.
Blade lenght 73cm
Bladethickness tapers from 8mm to 5mm
Blade tip is double edged on the last 23cm
Blade wide is 3,5cm at the ricasso and 2,8/2,5 cm at the edge

The Ricasso is stamped on both sides. Maybe this detail is overlooked till now, so i took some pictures of this detail.
Perhaps this detail brings something new about the tulwar.

Best regards
Claus