German hackbut barrel

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 05:05 PM

Thanks a lot, Marcus,

For the information!

Best,
m

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 07:35 PM

Hi Marcus,

As you do know Czerny's latest catalog so well, could you please tell me the lot no. of the wheellock combination weapon (a sword, a mace or an axe?) marked red on their cover scan attached?

I could not find it in any of their sections but it must be there somewhere ...

Thanks again in advance for your assistance,
Michael

Marcus den toom · 19th December 2013, 08:04 PM

A tricky one indeed

Lot number 1497, it was sold for €14000,- a considerable amount seeing that this weapon was offered for sale for just €8000,- a half year earlier at a different auction

Matchlock · 19th December 2013, 09:58 PM

And once more my heartfelt thanks go to you, Marcus!

Sectioning that weapon among 'miniature weapons' is not tricky but simply wrong as this of course is not a miniature weapon but an absolutely correct and full-size, fine and extremely rare gilt-etched combined wheellock pistol and horseman's hammer, Nuremberg, ca. 1550-55 (Czerny's labeled it as 'late 16th c.')!

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 20th December 2013, 04:51 PM

Hi Marcus,

Here is a postscript to my comment on that haquebut barrel:

I just noticed that a former fire shield is most probably missing from the pan as well. The left hole must have been meant for it, and it must have been riveted where I marked the spot in red. The hole to the right of the pan trough was for the riveted pivot of the missing, formerly swiveling pan cover.

Best,
Michael

Marcus den toom · 20th December 2013, 05:19 PM

A good observation Michael

Would this barrel been fastened by iron bands? I can not find the loops onder the barrel you otherwise would see, but the pictures are not that revealing either

I found this at Bonhams, they say it is around 1500 but there is no real hook, more a rectangular "hook". So earlier? (bonhams 30nov 2011)
http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19002/lot/244/

19th December 2013, 07:35 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, As you do know Czerny's latest catalog so well, could you please tell me the lot no. of the wheellock combination weapon (a sword, a mace or an axe?) marked red on their cover scan attached? I could not find it in any of their sections but it must be there somewhere ... Thanks again in advance for your assistance, Michael Attached Images

19th December 2013, 09:58 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	And once more my heartfelt thanks go to you, Marcus! Sectioning that weapon among 'miniature weapons' is not tricky but simply wrong as this of course is not a miniature weapon but an absolutely correct and full-size, fine and extremely rare gilt-etched combined wheellock pistol and horseman's hammer, Nuremberg, ca. 1550-55 (Czerny's labeled it as 'late 16th c.')! Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 20th December 2013 at 11:30 AM.

20th December 2013, 04:51 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Marcus, Here is a postscript to my comment on that haquebut barrel: I just noticed that a former fire shield is most probably missing from the pan as well. The left hole must have been meant for it, and it must have been riveted where I marked the spot in red. The hole to the right of the pan trough was for the riveted pivot of the missing, formerly swiveling pan cover. Best, Michael Attached Images

19th December 2013, 05:05 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Thanks a lot, Marcus, For the information! Best, m

19th December 2013, 08:04 PM	#3
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	A tricky one indeed Lot number 1497, it was sold for €14000,- a considerable amount seeing that this weapon was offered for sale for just €8000,- a half year earlier at a different auction

20th December 2013, 05:19 PM	#6
Marcus den toom Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Netherlands Posts: 535	A good observation Michael Would this barrel been fastened by iron bands? I can not find the loops onder the barrel you otherwise would see, but the pictures are not that revealing either I found this at Bonhams, they say it is around 1500 but there is no real hook, more a rectangular "hook". So earlier? (bonhams 30nov 2011) http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19002/lot/244/