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6th December 2013, 02:44 PM
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I would like to add that the inside of the first detached wheellock mechanism posted by Marcus in this thread is for a ca. 1630 North Italian two-shot superimposed-load military carbine on the Bossi system.
I attached images of a Bossi carbine, formerly in the W. Keith Neal colln., from a Czerny's sales catalogue, and of three other superimposed-load wheellock guns from the W. Keith Neal colln., Christie's. Please mind that the flintlock musket, French, ca. 1640, obviously has severe working problems in both its locks as the cocks are not in the correct upright position for half-cock but they lean forward too much so that each flint actually touches the steel instead of standing clear off it! Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 6th December 2013 at 09:34 PM. |
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6th December 2013, 02:47 PM
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And the description to the ca. 1640 flintlock superimposed-load musket.
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6th December 2013, 03:07 PM
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Another image of the fine military carbine on the double-shot superimposed-load Giuliano Bossi system, sold from the W. Keith Neal colln., Christie's, 12 Dec 1997.
It fetched 15,000 Deutsche Mark, auction fees included. m Last edited by Matchlock; 6th December 2013 at 03:45 PM. |
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11th December 2013, 08:22 PM
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Just an aside concerning the last picture attached in post #10:
The cock and steel of this ca. 1655-60 flintlock carbine are absolutely in the correct angle for mid-17th c. half-cock position demonstrating the malfunction of the superimposed-load flintlock gun in the above post (repeated here)! m Last edited by Matchlock; 11th December 2013 at 08:39 PM. |
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12th December 2013, 06:49 PM
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yes, check christies Sale 9776 lot117
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17th December 2013, 10:12 PM
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And another instance of a ca. 1645 Westfalian flintlock haquebut (wallgun), the barrel about 100 years earlier, ca. 1540, the cock and steel (frizzen) in the absolutely correct position for half- and full-cock. From Christie's Schloss Dyck museum sale, part I, April 15, 1992, lot 48. I bought it at Christie's sale and for about ten years, it stayed in my collection. m |
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18th December 2013, 08:48 PM
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A Four-Shot Superimposed-Load Military Matchlock Musket, ca. 1600-20
In the Koninklijk Leger Museum (Army Museum Brussels).
Please note the fact that - as is the case with many unusual and experimental guns! - all the serpentines are shaped and work differently! While three of them are snapping matchlocks and are released by the small, short trigger, the forward serpentine that initiates the first (topmost) shot is activated by the long tiller trigger that actually acts as a guard for the small trigger. m |
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18th December 2013, 09:00 PM
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To the moderators!
On my own account, and as I pleaded in post #2 above, the main title of this thread really should in any case be altered to
Superimposed Load Firearms. It does not make any sense the way it reads now! The loads were superimpsed, not the guns! Thanks, and best, Michael |
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