Unknown sword! Possibly Sumatran Battak with Pamor?

kronckew · 11th October 2013, 09:45 AM

do you have photos of the blade/grip & scabbard? might help pin it down.

oil is scented with flowers, can be coconut oil, mineral oil. see this link for a recipe: LINKY

edited:
i see me and sajen posted over each other. luckily we agree

William.m · 11th October 2013, 10:01 AM

Here are some additional photos for you chaps! Apologies for the poor quality, I snapped them this morning on my phone.
Also thank you for the link for the recipe, I may give it a go!

William.m · 11th October 2013, 10:32 AM

OK so through searching though 8 year old emails I have managed to find the seller I originally bought the sword from, and by going though his listings he has a sword currently up for sale that is very similar to the one in question.

kronckew · 11th October 2013, 01:56 PM

hopefully sajen has some new info where it comes from. to me it looks like an older parang blade redressed in a new set of generic clothes (grip & scabbard), still nice tho.

it's like a japanese sword in shirasaya.

Rick · 11th October 2013, 03:05 PM

Could be, but I would find it a bit unsettling to see almost the exact same blade offered in the same dress .

Also William, active auctions are not allowed to be posted here .

William.m · 11th October 2013, 03:15 PM

Sorry Rick I didn't know. Ebay link removed.

I had a look through my emails where I was questioning the seller on the sword, and he said it had "new clothes". Personally I think the Shirasaya style fittings were made for the sword shortly before I bought it and that his business is to find old blades and mount them in a simple shirasaya for sale.

The sword that I was linking to is actually quite different to my sword, but the wooden fittings are very similar.

kronckew · 11th October 2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Could be, but I would find it a bit unsettling to see almost the exact same blade offered in the same dress .

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i know a gentleman in Australia who sells a range of new malaysian/indonesian/phillipene bladed weapons (in mono-steel and laminated/pamour) by current smiths to patterns similar to these, tho usually with more traditional and decorative dress. he also rescues old blades, reconditions them and dresses them in new fittings very much like these if needed. he iws struggling 'Valiant'ly with the current batch of anti-sword laws in australia that has dried up many of his sources.

Rick · 11th October 2013, 04:12 PM

^ I remember that guy; I haven't seen his stuff on the web for some time, but then I don't get out much .
Good to hear he's still in business .

11th October 2013, 10:32 AM	#3
William.m Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Posts: 104	OK so through searching though 8 year old emails I have managed to find the seller I originally bought the sword from, and by going though his listings he has a sword currently up for sale that is very similar to the one in question. Last edited by William.m; 11th October 2013 at 03:12 PM. Reason: Removed ebay link :)

11th October 2013, 09:45 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	do you have photos of the blade/grip & scabbard? might help pin it down. oil is scented with flowers, can be coconut oil, mineral oil. see this link for a recipe: LINKY edited: i see me and sajen posted over each other. luckily we agree

11th October 2013, 10:01 AM	#2
William.m Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Posts: 104	Here are some additional photos for you chaps! Apologies for the poor quality, I snapped them this morning on my phone. Also thank you for the link for the recipe, I may give it a go!

11th October 2013, 01:56 PM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,224	hopefully sajen has some new info where it comes from. to me it looks like an older parang blade redressed in a new set of generic clothes (grip & scabbard), still nice tho. it's like a japanese sword in shirasaya.

11th October 2013, 03:05 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Could be, but I would find it a bit unsettling to see almost the exact same blade offered in the same dress . Also William, active auctions are not allowed to be posted here .

11th October 2013, 03:15 PM	#6
William.m Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: England Posts: 104	Sorry Rick I didn't know. Ebay link removed. I had a look through my emails where I was questioning the seller on the sword, and he said it had "new clothes". Personally I think the Shirasaya style fittings were made for the sword shortly before I bought it and that his business is to find old blades and mount them in a simple shirasaya for sale. The sword that I was linking to is actually quite different to my sword, but the wooden fittings are very similar.

11th October 2013, 04:12 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	^ I remember that guy; I haven't seen his stuff on the web for some time, but then I don't get out much . Good to hear he's still in business .