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Spunjer · 8th October 2013, 02:45 AM

lol, i wasn't thinking about the pommel to begin with, David. not til you brought it up.
lemme rephrase that:

if both baka2x were present, then why the need for rattan bind knowing that those two clamps would suffice in keeping the blade in place?

you then mentioned the pommel which was a possibility. as in the possiblity that the rattan bind was there to hold it in place.

which brought up, in my mind anyway, a more of a rethorical question on why the original owner would rather do this than glueing the pommel in place.

now that kino mentioned that the pommel is tight to the hilt, it might serve some other purpose... i notice the second set of bindings (normally three sets about quarter inch wide on top of the primary bindings are missing (or are they? can't see too well from the photos...). so i reckon the rattan binds would give it a more secure grip?

Battara · 8th October 2013, 04:18 AM

Kino Thanks for the clarification. What I thought I saw as well worn okir may just be scratches.

Sajen · 8th October 2013, 08:09 AM

Interesting kris!

Want to remember this one from my collection: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15589
The rattan binding at this one was done clearly to secure the pommel which was loose when I get it. Now it is reglued and someone who don't know that it is reglued will ask himself for which reason the rattan bindings are.

Regards,

Detlef

David · 8th October 2013, 02:47 PM

Can i ask of Detlef and anyone else who has re-glued a pommel on one of these swords what glue they used or would suggest? I have a loose pommel and i would like to avoid the rattan method.

Spunjer · 8th October 2013, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Can i ask of Detlef and anyone else who has re-glued a pommel on one of these swords what glue they used or would suggest? I have a loose pommel and i would like to avoid the rattan method.

i have been using Elmer's wood glue and they hold up pretty good. it dries clear as well...

Sajen · 8th October 2013, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Can i ask of Detlef and anyone else who has re-glued a pommel on one of these swords what glue they used or would suggest? I have a loose pommel and i would like to avoid the rattan method.

Hello David,

it was used wood glue for boat building.

Regards,

Detlef

David · 9th October 2013, 04:40 AM

I probably should have been more specific. Would any of your glue choices chance if the pommel was ivory?

Sajen · 9th October 2013, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

I probably should have been more specific. Would any of your glue choices chance if the pommel was ivory?

In this case I would use two-component adhesive.

8th October 2013, 02:45 AM	#1
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	lol, i wasn't thinking about the pommel to begin with, David. not til you brought it up. lemme rephrase that: if both baka2x were present, then why the need for rattan bind knowing that those two clamps would suffice in keeping the blade in place? you then mentioned the pommel which was a possibility. as in the possiblity that the rattan bind was there to hold it in place. which brought up, in my mind anyway, a more of a rethorical question on why the original owner would rather do this than glueing the pommel in place. now that kino mentioned that the pommel is tight to the hilt, it might serve some other purpose... i notice the second set of bindings (normally three sets about quarter inch wide on top of the primary bindings are missing (or are they? can't see too well from the photos...). so i reckon the rattan binds would give it a more secure grip?

8th October 2013, 04:18 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Kino Thanks for the clarification. What I thought I saw as well worn okir may just be scratches.

8th October 2013, 08:09 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Interesting kris! Want to remember this one from my collection: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15589 The rattan binding at this one was done clearly to secure the pommel which was loose when I get it. Now it is reglued and someone who don't know that it is reglued will ask himself for which reason the rattan bindings are. Regards, Detlef

8th October 2013, 02:47 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	Can i ask of Detlef and anyone else who has re-glued a pommel on one of these swords what glue they used or would suggest? I have a loose pommel and i would like to avoid the rattan method.

9th October 2013, 04:40 AM	#7
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,218	I probably should have been more specific. Would any of your glue choices chance if the pommel was ivory?