Visayan daga/sword/kris for comment

Sajen · 29th July 2013, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVV

Congratulations!!!

It's interesting with the twin Bakunawa-hilt combined with the kris blade.
I must check my search-settings so I will not miss if its brother will show up in the future.

Michael

Thank you Michael,

sometimes I have an unbelievable luck, still can't believe that I was the only one who have seen it.
I only have seen an other double Bakunawa-hilt hilt before, here in the forum from our ex-member zel and every time looked to this very nice example.

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 30th July 2013, 01:51 AM

Michael is right. In fact the Visayans did get the kris influence from contacts with the Moros. They and the Ilocanos are the only ones I know who have a history of wavy blades outside of the Morolands.

BTW - I decided to pass on this when I saw it on eBay. Glad you got it.

Sajen · 30th July 2013, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Battara

BTW - I decided to pass on this when I saw it on eBay. Glad you got it.

Thank you Jose in both ways!

Regards,

Detlef

Robert · 30th July 2013, 07:50 PM

Hello Detlef, Wonderful sword!! I fortunately did not see this when it was for sale, for unlike Jose I would have been bidding on it.

I have always wanted a Visayan example of these wavy bladed swords. My congratulations to you on finding one, especially with the original scabbard and twin Bakunawa-hilt.

You know who to contact if you ever get tired of looking after it.

Best,
Robert

Sajen · 30th July 2013, 10:25 PM

Hi Robert,

thank you and I am with you that I always wanted a Visayan waved blade. I am fascinated from above given thread and the beautiful examples Zel had posted in it. And they seem to be very rare since they not often seen for sell.
So please understand that I am sure that I don't will get tired to look at it soon.

Do you agree that it is most probable of Ilonggo origin?

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 31st July 2013, 12:47 AM

Maybe but not necessarily. I think other Visayan groups use this form of scabbard too.

Sajen · 19th August 2013, 03:41 PM

Have received the sword and I am pleased with it. The scabbard is IMHO not the original one, see the additional pictures. The guard is slanted but the scabbard mouth is straight and worked for a single edged blade. The beautiful horn hilt has a silver ferrule and have had originally two silver panels and silver eyes, one is still present. It seems that the blade unfortunately was once cleaned mechanical. Here some first pictures.

30th July 2013, 10:25 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Hi Robert, thank you and I am with you that I always wanted a Visayan waved blade. I am fascinated from above given thread and the beautiful examples Zel had posted in it. And they seem to be very rare since they not often seen for sell. So please understand that I am sure that I don't will get tired to look at it soon. Do you agree that it is most probable of Ilonggo origin? Regards, Detlef Attached Images

19th August 2013, 03:41 PM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,212	Have received the sword and I am pleased with it. The scabbard is IMHO not the original one, see the additional pictures. The guard is slanted but the scabbard mouth is straight and worked for a single edged blade. The beautiful horn hilt has a silver ferrule and have had originally two silver panels and silver eyes, one is still present. It seems that the blade unfortunately was once cleaned mechanical. Here some first pictures. Attached Images

30th July 2013, 01:51 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Michael is right. In fact the Visayans did get the kris influence from contacts with the Moros. They and the Ilocanos are the only ones I know who have a history of wavy blades outside of the Morolands. BTW - I decided to pass on this when I saw it on eBay. Glad you got it.

30th July 2013, 07:50 PM	#4
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Detlef, Wonderful sword!! I fortunately did not see this when it was for sale, for unlike Jose I would have been bidding on it. I have always wanted a Visayan example of these wavy bladed swords. My congratulations to you on finding one, especially with the original scabbard and twin Bakunawa-hilt. You know who to contact if you ever get tired of looking after it. Best, Robert

31st July 2013, 12:47 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,280	Maybe but not necessarily. I think other Visayan groups use this form of scabbard too.