Two hands sword

valkenburg · 18th July 2013, 04:14 PM

Check out this sword that was recently sold at auction:

http://www.lawrences.co.uk/Catalogue...3/lot0079.html

This sword is a little similar to yours and was made late 19th century (maybe early 20th century) and was most likely used only for decoration or processional use.

it sold for 870 pounds sterling.

carlos · 18th July 2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by valkenburg

Check out this sword that was recently sold at auction:

http://www.lawrences.co.uk/Catalogue...3/lot0079.html

This sword is a little similar to yours and was made late 19th century (maybe early 20th century) and was most likely used only for decoration or processional use.

it sold for 870 pounds sterling.

Thank you very much !
Yes, this example is very similar, Reading this I´m very happy,I paid 185 euros for the sword.
Thanks again

carlos

valkenburg · 18th July 2013, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by carlos

Thank you very much !
Yes, this example is very similar, Reading this I´m very happy,I paid 185 euros for the sword.
Thanks again

carlos

Only 185 euro?? what a bargain! Lucky you. 870 was the hammer price, and then 23% + VAT was added as well (so in the end it was about 1100 euro). But I think your sword is more recent than this one.

laEspadaAncha · 20th July 2013, 10:31 PM

Hi Carlos,

Is the sword now in your possession? Can you post close-up photos of the (top of) the pommel? How is that highly-stylized pommel secured to the rest of the hilt?

Even if it a late Victorian wall hanger, somebody should still call the police, because if you only paid 185 euros, IMO you stole it.

Cheers,
Chris

fernando · 21st July 2013, 12:52 AM

Well, different perspectives;depending on whether or not you enjoy gathering wall hangers ... with all due respect

laEspadaAncha · 21st July 2013, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fernando

Well, different perspectives;depending on whether or not you enjoy gathering wall hangers ... with all due respect

I know...

What I would give to come across a period original in a local sale - the only one I've held in hand was a Victorian creation as well, and I gave it a happy albeit temporary home on my wall until it was traded for something more appealing. What's the old saying? "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with?"

Trust me though - the day the real deal walks into my shop, it's not walking out.

fernando · 21st July 2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by laEspadaAncha

... What's the old saying? "If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with?"

..

Same as: he who doesn't have a dog, hunts with a cat

I din't think i could ever afford to acquire the real thing ... when it appears ... so i pass

Jim McDougall · 21st July 2013, 02:49 AM

If its an early , i.e. Victorian or early 20th example used as noted in pageants, theatrical or otherwise, these are still worthy antiquities in thier own right. The Victorian penchant for reproduced classical arms and armour has placed many items as desirable collectibles, especially the Ernst Schmitt products from Munich, 19th c.
Many of these were displayed in the Higgins museum for many years along with authentic pieces.

fernando · 21st July 2013, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

... these are still worthy antiquities in thier own right...

Yes, Jim !
An antiquity; nevertheless a copy ... of something in use three centuries before

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I repeat, with the due respect for Carlos ... and also for genuine two handed swords (called montantes over here)

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18th July 2013, 04:14 PM	#1
valkenburg Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 16	Check out this sword that was recently sold at auction: http://www.lawrences.co.uk/Catalogue...3/lot0079.html This sword is a little similar to yours and was made late 19th century (maybe early 20th century) and was most likely used only for decoration or processional use. it sold for 870 pounds sterling.

20th July 2013, 10:31 PM	#4
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Hi Carlos, Is the sword now in your possession? Can you post close-up photos of the (top of) the pommel? How is that highly-stylized pommel secured to the rest of the hilt? Even if it a late Victorian wall hanger, somebody should still call the police, because if you only paid 185 euros, IMO you stole it. Cheers, Chris

21st July 2013, 12:52 AM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Well, different perspectives;depending on whether or not you enjoy gathering wall hangers ... with all due respect

21st July 2013, 02:49 AM	#8
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 10,281	If its an early , i.e. Victorian or early 20th example used as noted in pageants, theatrical or otherwise, these are still worthy antiquities in thier own right. The Victorian penchant for reproduced classical arms and armour has placed many items as desirable collectibles, especially the Ernst Schmitt products from Munich, 19th c. Many of these were displayed in the Higgins museum for many years along with authentic pieces.