Ayda Kattis; Need help with the inscription on blade???

Gavin Nugent · 14th July 2013, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Nordlunde

The stamp Gav shows can also bee seen without any gold, but it can also look like the attached, inlaid with silver.
The sign represents the sound 'OM'. See Robert Elgood: Hindu Arms and Ritual, Pp. 234-235.

Thank you Jens.

I will read further when I have my library out of storage.

I look forward to seeing the script on blade translated in time.

Gav

laEspadaAncha · 15th July 2013, 01:06 AM

Correction - it appears to be Malayalam. Didn't need the Mrs (Miss Direction?) for this one...

The string after the date appears to spell out "Janavari," which, according to my wife, is a (phonetic) Malayali adaptation of "January," thereby reading, "January 1888."

Any Malayalis in the forum to confirm?

ETA: It is interesting to see the shared similarities among Dravidian languages, just as you see similarities among European languages, Sanskrit-based languages, or any other branching path of a respective language tree.

laEspadaAncha · 15th July 2013, 01:19 AM

To follow up the last post:

laEspadaAncha · 15th July 2013, 01:24 AM

Apparently, in January 1888, in Travancore, Dewan T. Ram Rao and the Maharaja agreed on the formation of a legislative council that was seen as the kernel of precedence that resulted in the legislative creation of modern-day Kerala. From this link:

Pre-Independence Period (1888-1947)
The seed for a legislative body was sown in Travancore, when in January 1888, the Dewan T.Ram Rao proposed to the Maharaja, the organisation of a Legislative Council so that "the Dewan would gain the benefit of discussing with and taking the opinion of responsible officers associated with him in matters of legislation, one of the most important functions of Government". This proposal was readily approved by Sri Mulam Thirunal Maharaja and a regulation was passed on 30th March, 1888, creating a Legislative Council, of three year tenure, and composed of 8 members of whom 6 were to be officials and 2 non-officials nominated by the Maharaja. The Dewan was to preside over the meetings.

olikara · 15th July 2013, 05:23 AM

Yes the text is in Malayalam, the language spoken in Kerala.

It reads: 'Kumbalakaran ayyappan
maryamba ambalathil koduthaddu
1888 Janavari'

Which translates as:
'Given by Ayyappan of Kumbalam to the Maryamba Temple 1888 January'

Ayyappan - Name of the Donor
Kumbalam - Name of the town he hails from
Maryamba - Name of the presiding deity in the temple, probably the Goddess Mariamman.
1888 Janavari - 1888 January.

Hope this helped.

15th July 2013, 01:06 AM	#2
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Correction - it appears to be Malayalam. Didn't need the Mrs (Miss Direction?) for this one... The string after the date appears to spell out "Janavari," which, according to my wife, is a (phonetic) Malayali adaptation of "January," thereby reading, "January 1888." Any Malayalis in the forum to confirm? ETA: It is interesting to see the shared similarities among Dravidian languages, just as you see similarities among European languages, Sanskrit-based languages, or any other branching path of a respective language tree. Last edited by laEspadaAncha; 15th July 2013 at 01:45 AM.

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laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	To follow up the last post: Attached Images

15th July 2013, 01:24 AM	#4
laEspadaAncha Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 608	Apparently, in January 1888, in Travancore, Dewan T. Ram Rao and the Maharaja agreed on the formation of a legislative council that was seen as the kernel of precedence that resulted in the legislative creation of modern-day Kerala. From this link: Pre-Independence Period (1888-1947) The seed for a legislative body was sown in Travancore, when in January 1888, the Dewan T.Ram Rao proposed to the Maharaja, the organisation of a Legislative Council so that "the Dewan would gain the benefit of discussing with and taking the opinion of responsible officers associated with him in matters of legislation, one of the most important functions of Government". This proposal was readily approved by Sri Mulam Thirunal Maharaja and a regulation was passed on 30th March, 1888, creating a Legislative Council, of three year tenure, and composed of 8 members of whom 6 were to be officials and 2 non-officials nominated by the Maharaja. The Dewan was to preside over the meetings. Last edited by laEspadaAncha; 15th July 2013 at 01:35 AM. Reason: ETA link to source document

15th July 2013, 05:23 AM	#5
olikara Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: India Posts: 101	The Katthi Text Yes the text is in Malayalam, the language spoken in Kerala. It reads: 'Kumbalakaran ayyappan maryamba ambalathil koduthaddu 1888 Janavari' Which translates as: 'Given by Ayyappan of Kumbalam to the Maryamba Temple 1888 January' Ayyappan - Name of the Donor Kumbalam - Name of the town he hails from Maryamba - Name of the presiding deity in the temple, probably the Goddess Mariamman. 1888 Janavari - 1888 January. Hope this helped. Last edited by olikara; 15th July 2013 at 05:26 AM. Reason: Minor phonetic change made