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7th June 2013, 04:04 AM
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After some cleaning clearer designs began to emerge. Perhaps patterns will be identifiable to an area the sheath was made. I haven't had a chance to begin looking yet. Rick I think the Pinched tang is a good start. The vague patterns in the rust, were connect the dot types, no help, the blade remains unmarked. after thought the leather work is a bit primitive, simple cuts and dye. Almost like scarification.
Regards, Steve Last edited by archer; 7th June 2013 at 07:27 AM. Reason: comment on leather work |
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7th June 2013, 12:14 PM
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There appear to be similarities between this sword and the knives in threads:-
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16661 http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14832 i.e. They all display the dot in a roundel type of decoration, They all seem to have the same "pinched" tang construction, The scabbards show similar tooling, I would suggest the consensus is settling on a North or North West African origin. Regards Richard |
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7th June 2013, 03:21 PM
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Richard and Stu are likely correct
This is a link about circle decorations:http://vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16661 look at the knives sheath. It appears to have only one wooden insert, as does my swords scabbard. The circles are kind of understandable as a simple design to make.
The second link provided by Richard G shows an odd tapered tang! http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=14832 This thread as Kanjar 1 had stated earlier pointed to Algeria and Northern Africa as a possible source of the knives. What do you think? Oh, one more thing the odd steel shown on this knife reminds me some better quality Koummya's can have a similar odd looking steel. Regards, Steve Last edited by archer; 7th June 2013 at 03:31 PM. Reason: Missing photos |
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7th June 2013, 06:05 PM
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Another Koummya Blade
This Koummya was purchased from France (E Bay) seller, said it was from North Central Morocco bordering Algeria. Note dagger with the same oddly rough textured steel.
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7th June 2013, 06:35 PM
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The circle and dot motif is way too common to base anything on it, I am afraid: I can easily find Balkan and Central Asian examples. The sheath is much more intriguing, and its more complex decoration would probably serve us better in identifying the culture, where the sword was made.
Regards, Teodor |
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7th June 2013, 06:52 PM
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Perhaps as to not distract from archer's nice sword, we should continue the discussion in this old thread:
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...6&page=2&pp=30 Please note on page 2 another such sword with yet another reference to the Dominican Republic. Regards, Teodor |
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8th June 2013, 05:14 PM
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Photos of Berbers with Berber Sabers??
Hi Teodor, I agree the dots appear in a lot of decorations. My and Others points are that The knife in question if Algerian has too many similarities to dismiss. The tapered tang seen apparently on most if not all "Berber" Sabers. The sheaths most importantly wood lined on one side only, very unique too both the sword and knife. Here are a couple of photos from Maxwells " Lords of the Atlas" in different printings. The swords worn are not prominent but they could well be "Berber Sabers", what do you think? I have no problem with moving the thread.
I'm only interested in sabers origins and the many attributions it has gained. |
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