Indonesian ? spear for I.D. and comment

Gavin Nugent · 31st May 2013, 06:44 AM

Posts 24 & 27 present the spear types recorded as Sulawesi based on Asomotif's Wereldmuseum attribution….but there seems to be conjecture about the possible origins throughout the thread.

Being a spear collector, it was bought to my attention, that Artzi had recently sold one of these types that he attributes to Thailand...Whilst don't think Thailand, for those more learned on Thai arms, is there any possibility these are from Thailand or the Malay borders of Thailand?

I ask because, whilst Artzi mentions no provenance, there is on a miniature scale and design, similarities in the way they carry a tsuba like sleeve as seen on Thai spears...although overall they differ so much in size, proportions & design ...

The blade type all seem to be in Java(ish) style with most I have seen having a differential core.

Thoughts and opinions on this attribution

Gavin

31st May 2013, 06:44 AM	#27
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Posts 24 & 27 present the spear types recorded as Sulawesi based on Asomotif's Wereldmuseum attribution….but there seems to be conjecture about the possible origins throughout the thread. Being a spear collector, it was bought to my attention, that Artzi had recently sold one of these types that he attributes to Thailand...Whilst don't think Thailand, for those more learned on Thai arms, is there any possibility these are from Thailand or the Malay borders of Thailand? I ask because, whilst Artzi mentions no provenance, there is on a miniature scale and design, similarities in the way they carry a tsuba like sleeve as seen on Thai spears...although overall they differ so much in size, proportions & design ... The blade type all seem to be in Java(ish) style with most I have seen having a differential core. Thoughts and opinions on this attribution Gavin