What is it !!!? Ideas, comments please

RhysMichael · 27th May 2013, 09:17 PM

Looks like a telek or gozma carried by the Tuareg or Hausa But those that know African daggers better than I do will chime in soon I think

Sajen · 27th May 2013, 09:35 PM

Agree!

RhysMichael · 27th May 2013, 10:02 PM

Thanks Sajen for confirming I have not been on the boards in a long while so my memory could have been way off

Tony since if you can find a copy of it Armes traditionnelles d'Afrique ( by Tristan Bastide I think ) would be a good place to look and maybe African Arms and Armour by Spring

Iain · 28th May 2013, 07:15 AM

It's an arm dagger likely made in Bida by the Nupe. The all brass hilt and scabbard is distinctive.

kronckew · 28th May 2013, 09:44 AM

nice tuareg telek (arm dagger).

Tony PP · 28th May 2013, 01:45 PM

Thanks for the replies. I live in Cyprus so objects like this are likely to turn up from time to time. I like it so I will put a bid on it. Thanks Again

RhysMichael · 28th May 2013, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain

It's an arm dagger likely made in Bida by the Nupe. The all brass hilt and scabbard is distinctive.

Thanks Iain I tend to lump them as Toureg though I know I should not.Its a bad habit. There are so many groups in that area. I do not know enough to know Taureg from Fulani from Hausa from Nupe et al. So always great to learn more from someone who does know the differences.

Iain · 29th May 2013, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhysMichael

Thanks Iain I tend to lump them as Toureg though I know I should not.Its a bad habit. There are so many groups in that area. I do not know enough to know Taureg from Fulani from Hausa from Nupe et al. So always great to learn more from someone who does know the differences.

Hi Rhys Michael,

Happy to help out, lumping all western Sahel items under the Tuareg banner is a common issue not helped by the extensive intermingling of these communities.

Thankfully there are a few cases where we can be more sure. This being one of them as there's a direct illustration in "Cultural Areas of Nigeria" by Hambly.

27th May 2013, 09:17 PM	#1
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Looks like a telek or gozma carried by the Tuareg or Hausa But those that know African daggers better than I do will chime in soon I think Last edited by RhysMichael; 27th May 2013 at 09:28 PM.

28th May 2013, 01:45 PM	#6
Tony PP Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 26	What is it !!! ? Thanks for the replies. I live in Cyprus so objects like this are likely to turn up from time to time. I like it so I will put a bid on it. Thanks Again

27th May 2013, 09:35 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Agree!

27th May 2013, 10:02 PM	#3
RhysMichael Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 520	Thanks Sajen for confirming I have not been on the boards in a long while so my memory could have been way off Tony since if you can find a copy of it Armes traditionnelles d'Afrique ( by Tristan Bastide I think ) would be a good place to look and maybe African Arms and Armour by Spring

28th May 2013, 07:15 AM	#4
Iain Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Olomouc Posts: 1,708	It's an arm dagger likely made in Bida by the Nupe. The all brass hilt and scabbard is distinctive.

28th May 2013, 09:44 AM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,215	nice tuareg telek (arm dagger).