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23rd May 2013, 08:48 AM
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Hello Mykeris,
If I notice such a piece for sale I will contact you by private message. Other members may have noted it also and propose you something.  Regards |
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23rd May 2013, 09:40 AM
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Very kind of you Jean. Regards..Mykeris.
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23rd May 2013, 10:56 PM
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So if I understand right, toli-tolis like this one are recent. What do older toli-tolis look like?
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23rd May 2013, 11:33 PM
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Hello Jose, will try to take pictures from the book Senjata Pusaka Bugis at weekend. Regards, Detlef |
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25th May 2013, 08:45 AM
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Hello Detlef and Jose,
In this book only 2 silver toli-toli are shown and at least one of them is recent. You can see nice and old gold specimens in the books "Keris" from Dr Hamzuri (pusakas from the Jakarta Museum) and "Courts of Indonesia" by Helen Jessup. Regards |
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26th May 2013, 02:17 PM
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Here the pictures from the two examples shown in the above mentioned book. frankly said i don't know from which one Jean think that it is recent.
Regards, Detlef |
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26th May 2013, 04:31 PM
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The kris shown on the right of the picture has a recent sheath and hilt IMO, see another specimen with a similar embedded silver wire decoration on the bottom part of the gandar (not Sulawesi Bugis but rather from Bali/ Lombok or Sumbawa?). However this style of decoration seems a bit less recent than the spiral wires and flowers seen on the sheath shown by Mykeris. But other opinions are welcome! Regards Last edited by Jean; 26th May 2013 at 04:43 PM. |
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