Indian Pesh-Kabz for comment

CharlesS · 7th May 2013, 04:14 PM

Is anyone else seeing the porous nature of the hilt scales....might this be bone, rather than ivory?

sandeepsingh · 12th May 2013, 06:27 PM

Hi,
Grip is ivory and seems to be Indian.
It may be influenced from afghan pesh-Kabz form.
Thanks
Sandeep

mahratt · 12th May 2013, 09:10 PM

I believe that this is an item from Afghanistan. Late 19th century - beginning of the 20th century. Bone handle - not an ivory (elephant tusk), and the usual bone (such as the legs of the animal)

Rick · 12th May 2013, 09:16 PM

I tend to agree with mahratt; this was not an expensive dagger when new so I doubt it would warrant ivory scales .

sandeepsingh · 13th May 2013, 04:19 PM

Generally crack type linings comes in ivory but i didn't no that such crack type lining comes in bone also.

ariel · 13th May 2013, 06:37 PM

One can see short longitudinal dark lines: these are periosteal blood vessels.
To simplify: bone. Not ivory.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 14th May 2013, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

One can see short longitudinal dark lines: these are periosteal blood vessels.
To simplify: bone. Not ivory.

Salaams Ariel, I was searching for some references on Ivory since I recall the puzzling time I had in Afghanistan trying to figure out what these hilts were made of and I found this ~

Books about Ivory.

IVORY By Geoffrey Wills. Published by AS Barnes & Co. First American Edition. Hardcover, 95 pgs. Indexed. Synopsis: covers ivory identification, care, and uses around the world. Many black and white photographs and line drawings.

Is It Ivory? By Harvey Shell. Published by Ahio Publishing Co., 1983. Paperback.

Identification Guide for Ivory and Ivory Substitutes 2nd Edition. By E.O. Espinoza. Published by the World Wildlife Fund, 1992. Paperback.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

7th May 2013, 04:14 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Is anyone else seeing the porous nature of the hilt scales....might this be bone, rather than ivory?

12th May 2013, 06:27 PM	#2
sandeepsingh Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: India Posts: 85	Hi, Grip is ivory and seems to be Indian. It may be influenced from afghan pesh-Kabz form. Thanks Sandeep

12th May 2013, 09:10 PM	#3
mahratt Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia Posts: 1,042	I believe that this is an item from Afghanistan. Late 19th century - beginning of the 20th century. Bone handle - not an ivory (elephant tusk), and the usual bone (such as the legs of the animal)

12th May 2013, 09:16 PM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	I tend to agree with mahratt; this was not an expensive dagger when new so I doubt it would warrant ivory scales .

13th May 2013, 04:19 PM	#5
sandeepsingh Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: India Posts: 85	Generally crack type linings comes in ivory but i didn't no that such crack type lining comes in bone also.

13th May 2013, 06:37 PM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	One can see short longitudinal dark lines: these are periosteal blood vessels. To simplify: bone. Not ivory.