Banjarmasin keris for comments.

[asomotif]

Originally Posted by Maurice

I've had contact with the new owner of the Bandjermasin keris and he emailed me some images of the kris, which I was allowed to post in the forum.

Maurice

Thanks Maurice,
Nice to have the full picture of the blade.
I have enlarged and turned them to get a better view of the blade.

[Rick]

When I see a blade like this I always wonder what it looked like new .
How does the gonjo become seperated like that, from the wilah ?

Couldn't have been that way when made, right ?

[A. G. Maisey]

Rick, last year I had the opportunity to handle a lot of very old keris that are located in European museums, keris that entered Europe before 1700 in most cases and in a few cases before 1600.

If I had not known the provenance of these keris my opinion would have been that I was handling keris from no earlier than about 1850, probably much later.

What happens with keris that have been located in their native environment for an extended period of time is that repeated cycles of cleaning followed by lengthy neglect results in a large part of the body of the blade being eroded. This erosion also occurs between the blade base and the gonjo, and thus we get a gap, even a light knock can push an old gonjo out of place.

In blades that have been restored in Central Jawa over the last 40 or so years, many m'ranggi have used epoxy resin, or a mix of epoxy resin and iron filings to fill the gap between the blade and the gonjo, thus providing a degree of protection to this area.

[Amuk Murugul]

Hullo everybody!

Just referring back to the original post, to me (in local terminology):

Blade: form: Sampana 9Lok
damascene pattern: Lidi Sabatang

Sheath: form: Jukungan

Best,

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo everybody!

Just referring back to the original post, to me (in local terminology):

Sheath: form: Jukungan

Best,

Hello Amuk,
Is this style of sheath common or at least well-known in West Java?
Best regards

[Amuk Murugul]

Originally Posted by Jean

Hello Amuk,
Is this style of sheath common or at least well-known in West Java?
Best regards

Hullo Jean,

Just to make sure that there is no misunderstanding: by 'local terminology', I mean local to Banjarmasin/South Kalimantan.

The above form was one of the three typical for this area and quite common. There are still many around, you just have to know where to look. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the current blade-makers' kerises came supplied them.
Among the Sunda, it is, how can I put it, 'well-known esoterically'(?).

Best,

[Jean]

Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul

Hullo Jean,

Just to make sure that there is no misunderstanding: by 'local terminology', I mean local to Banjarmasin/South Kalimantan.

The above form was one of the three typical for this area and quite common. There are still many around, you just have to know where to look. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the current blade-makers' kerises came supplied them.
Among the Sunda, it is, how can I put it, 'well-known esoterically'(?).

Best,

Hello Amuk,
Thank you and sorry for my misinterpretation . If you have pictures of the other types of Banjarmasin warangkas, they will be welcome, I only know of the rounded 'kidney' style one a bit similar to the Yogya gayaman style.
Best regards
Jean