French(?) cuirassier sword

Hotspur · 20th March 2013, 07:58 PM

Thanks for the specs. Your blade is the same length as my 1854 dragon but your grip is a bit shorter than either the 1816 or 1854 examples in tha other thread linked. I am attaching Jean Binck's images of his 1816 and 1854 along with Wayne Branner's 1854. The branched guard would really determine grip length, so I am at a loss aside from other possibilities.

It is possible that was a private effort of a French made sword but the castings don't seem to gel quite right with the 1816 an 1854 examples posted here thus far.

Cheers

GC

GrozaB · 21st March 2013, 12:22 AM

4 1/4" is the leather covered section of the grip.

Hotspur · 21st March 2013, 04:11 PM

Yes, I caught the grip length listed. My 1854 dragon is about an inch longer in the hilt overall. It is a smidge over 46" in the scabbard, toe to peen (and five pounds 4 ounces, these really are beastly). Shown below in an old photos with some spadroons and a repro Patton sword. The spadroon grips are just about four inches.so maybe your's really isn't that far off the mark.

The 1854 carabinier coming in with a blade a full meter, as does the 1816 cuirassier (per Jean Binck).

Cheers

Hotspur · 21st March 2013, 04:51 PM

Here is another good thread about the differences between an 1816 and 1854. As well, discussing remounted Napoleonic era blades.
http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...7-French-AN-XI

Cheers

GC

20th March 2013, 07:58 PM	#1
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 512	Thanks for the specs. Your blade is the same length as my 1854 dragon but your grip is a bit shorter than either the 1816 or 1854 examples in tha other thread linked. I am attaching Jean Binck's images of his 1816 and 1854 along with Wayne Branner's 1854. The branched guard would really determine grip length, so I am at a loss aside from other possibilities. It is possible that was a private effort of a French made sword but the castings don't seem to gel quite right with the 1816 an 1854 examples posted here thus far. Cheers GC Attached Images

21st March 2013, 04:11 PM	#3
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 512	Yes, I caught the grip length listed. My 1854 dragon is about an inch longer in the hilt overall. It is a smidge over 46" in the scabbard, toe to peen (and five pounds 4 ounces, these really are beastly). Shown below in an old photos with some spadroons and a repro Patton sword. The spadroon grips are just about four inches.so maybe your's really isn't that far off the mark. The 1854 carabinier coming in with a blade a full meter, as does the 1816 cuirassier (per Jean Binck). Cheers Attached Images

21st March 2013, 12:22 AM	#2
GrozaB Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Chicago Posts: 32	4 1/4" is the leather covered section of the grip.

21st March 2013, 04:51 PM	#4
Hotspur Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Nipmuc USA Posts: 512	Here is another good thread about the differences between an 1816 and 1854. As well, discussing remounted Napoleonic era blades. http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...7-French-AN-XI Cheers GC