Another Balinese Ceremonial Knife...with questions...

CharlesS · 29th September 2005, 08:26 PM

Thanks all.

Rick, there is no insert around the mouth of the scabbard; it is all just part of the carved wood scabbard.

purwacarita · 30th September 2005, 12:33 PM

Yes, it is a knife used for ceremonial tools and/or daily tools (we like to use tools modern tools made in china nowadays

). The blade declares the 4th stage in life, oldness, where keris represents 3 stages of life. The owner must give away their keris before given this blade as a symbol that they must leave behind worldly life and start focus spiritual life. I think mine is 2 edges sharp, perhaps it is other interpretation.

Javanese also have this kind of blade called bethak, but I don't know if it has the same purpose.

~Hing ngarsa sung tuladha, hing madya mangun karsa, tut wuri handayani

Rick · 30th September 2005, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesS

Thanks all.

Rick, there is no insert around the mouth of the scabbard; it is all just part of the carved wood scabbard.

Gotcha Charles . just an area that was left uncarved .
Thanks for the reply .

Mick · 30th September 2005, 06:09 PM

I have some (somewhat faded) pictures of a cremation ceremony back in 1976 for you who haven't seen one. I can load them here if you wish to see them. They are from a good vantage point which most people who have been to one do not get. (You are normally packed into a crowd of a thousand or so.)

They are not specifically pictures of weapons so I hesitate to point them up without a request. There are about 10 pictures covering the start of the procession from the village to the firing of the material at the cremation point.

Let me know if you wish to see them.

Henk · 30th September 2005, 07:08 PM

CharlesS,

That's a very fine one. Looks very good. Lovely!!

Mick · 1st October 2005, 02:46 PM

This is the point during the ceremony that I have seen the knife used.

Tim Simmons · 1st October 2005, 02:51 PM

Fantastic, I can feel the glow. Tim

1st October 2005, 02:46 PM	#6
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	This is the point during the ceremony that I have seen the knife used. Attached Images

29th September 2005, 08:26 PM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Thanks all. Rick, there is no insert around the mouth of the scabbard; it is all just part of the carved wood scabbard.

30th September 2005, 12:33 PM	#2
purwacarita Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 54	Yes, it is a knife used for ceremonial tools and/or daily tools (we like to use tools modern tools made in china nowadays ). The blade declares the 4th stage in life, oldness, where keris represents 3 stages of life. The owner must give away their keris before given this blade as a symbol that they must leave behind worldly life and start focus spiritual life. I think mine is 2 edges sharp, perhaps it is other interpretation. Javanese also have this kind of blade called bethak, but I don't know if it has the same purpose. ~Hing ngarsa sung tuladha, hing madya mangun karsa, tut wuri handayani

30th September 2005, 06:09 PM	#4
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	I have some (somewhat faded) pictures of a cremation ceremony back in 1976 for you who haven't seen one. I can load them here if you wish to see them. They are from a good vantage point which most people who have been to one do not get. (You are normally packed into a crowd of a thousand or so.) They are not specifically pictures of weapons so I hesitate to point them up without a request. There are about 10 pictures covering the start of the procession from the village to the firing of the material at the cremation point. Let me know if you wish to see them.

30th September 2005, 07:08 PM	#5
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	CharlesS, That's a very fine one. Looks very good. Lovely!!

1st October 2005, 02:51 PM	#7
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,854	Fantastic, I can feel the glow. Tim