Miquelet Pistol, decoration and maker questions

Fernando K · 13th December 2012, 12:50 PM

Hello:

Although Portuguese is not my language, the phrase "butt Egg" refers butt plate, which is egg-shaped, and can be seen in the second image.

Affectionately. Fernando K

dana_w · 13th December 2012, 01:06 PM

No luck searching for Egg Butt Pistols or Ovo pistola bunda. Google results Zero.

Fernando K · 13th December 2012, 01:26 PM

Hello:

Working with Google's translator, "ovo gun bunda" translates into Spanish as "gun butt Egg" and the English "egg pistol butt" ....... (?)

Affectionately. Fernando K

dana_w · 13th December 2012, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fernando K

Hello:

Working with Google's translator, "ovo gun bunda" translates into Spanish as "gun butt Egg" and the English "egg pistol butt" ....... (?)

Affectionately. Fernando K

That is the best I can up with. I am using Google's translator too. If "egg butt pistol" was an English term in common use, something would turn up. Maybe Fernando has a better Portuguese term that I can search for.

fernando · 13th December 2012, 02:10 PM

Watch out for automatic translations. The term you got for 'butt' was the brazilian vulgar term for women's butt (bunda).
The actual portuguese name for these pistols is 'pistola de coronha de ovo'; it would be 'cureña de huevo' in Spanish. But i guess that, even this butt shape originates in Spain, the term coronha de ovo is genuine portuguese, with no pracrical translation.
Therefore the only chance to find the term in the internet is in portuguese. I have found a couple pistols in auction sites but the image was gone, as the items were sold.
I will be back with further info.

fernando · 13th December 2012, 05:45 PM

Here you have them of all kinds; ignition systems of all types ... patilla variations, 'half French-half Portuguese', 'Goats foot', English type, percussion and converted to percussion. Iron and brass butt plates ... and even one with rotary barrels.
One thing in common is the egg shaped butt ... that can be pointing to either direction.
One of the details that distinguishes Portuguese pistols from Spanish is that, the butt plate in the Spanish models is limited to the butt shape whereas in the Portuguese pistols there is a rim 'folding' to the stock

Sorry for the poor pictures. The book is a bit to heavy and large for me (one handed) to handle on the scanner.

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dana_w · 13th December 2012, 06:40 PM

Some of those butt plates really do look egg shaped. Thanks for sending me the Portuguese and Spanish names. I have had a lot better luck searching with those.

13th December 2012, 05:45 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Here you have them of all kinds; ignition systems of all types ... patilla variations, 'half French-half Portuguese', 'Goats foot', English type, percussion and converted to percussion. Iron and brass butt plates ... and even one with rotary barrels. One thing in common is the egg shaped butt ... that can be pointing to either direction. One of the details that distinguishes Portuguese pistols from Spanish is that, the butt plate in the Spanish models is limited to the butt shape whereas in the Portuguese pistols there is a rim 'folding' to the stock Sorry for the poor pictures. The book is a bit to heavy and large for me (one handed) to handle on the scanner. . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 13th December 2012 at 08:02 PM.

13th December 2012, 12:50 PM	#1
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello: Although Portuguese is not my language, the phrase "butt Egg" refers butt plate, which is egg-shaped, and can be seen in the second image. Affectionately. Fernando K

13th December 2012, 01:06 PM	#2
dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Posts: 436	No luck searching for Egg Butt Pistols or Ovo pistola bunda. Google results Zero.

13th December 2012, 01:26 PM	#3
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 671	Hello: Working with Google's translator, "ovo gun bunda" translates into Spanish as "gun butt Egg" and the English "egg pistol butt" ....... (?) Affectionately. Fernando K

13th December 2012, 02:10 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Watch out for automatic translations. The term you got for 'butt' was the brazilian vulgar term for women's butt (bunda). The actual portuguese name for these pistols is 'pistola de coronha de ovo'; it would be 'cureña de huevo' in Spanish. But i guess that, even this butt shape originates in Spain, the term coronha de ovo is genuine portuguese, with no pracrical translation. Therefore the only chance to find the term in the internet is in portuguese. I have found a couple pistols in auction sites but the image was gone, as the items were sold. I will be back with further info.

13th December 2012, 06:40 PM	#7
dana_w Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Southeast Florida, USA Posts: 436	Some of those butt plates really do look egg shaped. Thanks for sending me the Portuguese and Spanish names. I have had a lot better luck searching with those.