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|  6th December 2012, 05:45 PM | #1 | 
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			Hi Gustav! Thank you so much for the diagrams with the keris nomenclature - they have been added to my ever growing library.   Regarding the material of the hilt, I would need sharper pictures to comfortably be able to give you my opinion on it, so I'll just say that I think it looks beautiful. I am really a sucker for stained ivory and your hilt has this wonderful warmness to it. Hi kai, I see the little row of spots that you mention. I've heard before that hippo ivory should have such spotted lines, but never more than anecdotal information. Do you by any chance have a reference in this regard? I would love the chance to seek out the source. Cordially, - Thor | 
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|  6th December 2012, 07:57 PM | #2 | 
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			Gustav, I am quite comfortable in saying that this blade is not from Jawa nor is it from Madura. Some of the characteristics do have a Madura appearance, but overall there is too much variation from Madura for it to fit this classification. I do not wish to speculate on origin, but I do have a keris with very closely similar material and blade garap, ie, discounting the work in the sorsoran, and it was collected in Patani around 1920 | 
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|  6th December 2012, 08:07 PM | #3 | 
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			Alan, thank you very much for the clarification, I really needed it.
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|  6th December 2012, 08:37 PM | #4 | |
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 here a picture from a cross section through a hippo tooth where you clearly see the row of black spots. And now have a look to the picture Gustav posted. Best regards, Detlef | |
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