keris bali

BluErf · 21st September 2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by nechesh

Well, i'm surprised none of the kerisopiles have come foward with a comment yet......

Hey Nechesh, I think you qualify as a kerisophile. Look at your choice of avatar!

BluErf · 21st September 2005, 02:12 PM

And btw, its a real nice Balinese keris here. Can Simatua please post more pictures of the top sheath please? A straight shot of the top sheath would be nice.

nechesh · 21st September 2005, 10:07 PM

No Kai Wee, i'm a kerisofanatic! There's a difference!

simatua · 22nd September 2005, 12:13 PM

Here some more pictures. For a Balinese infact it is a very short blade
about 44 cm.
For myself i think the sheath is made from some kind of root/ wortel?

purwacarita · 23rd September 2005, 04:32 PM

Hi simatua. I think that if you see the keris from beauty perspective, you would not care even if it is not originally from places as said. If you see from yoni perspective, you would not care if the keris is either 1 year old or 1000 years old. Just remember that what people say as kadutan, or pusaka, or pertimi, is not because the keris has those properties, but because people see it as such. For example, I'd love to say a pusaka as a historical pertimi or historicable pertimi. But somebody else can say his keris, pusaka, because the kadutan has saved his life (CE:from getting biten by his neighbor's dog), and I could not blame him for saying his keris so. Because he is 100% right. So Be Careful.

nechesh · 24th September 2005, 01:30 AM

You know Martin, Purwa might have a point here. I mean, why should we bother to try and determine anything about our keris when they can be anything we want them to be if we can see them from the yoni perspective. So when an unscrupulous keris dealer mahars a keris to you at $1000 and tells you it is a powerful pusaka when in fact it was made yesterday by a skilled craftman in Madura it shouldn't matter, right, because "what people say as kadutan, or pusaka, or pertimi, is not because the keris has those properties, but because people see it as such."???

Rick · 24th September 2005, 04:19 PM

I personally can't think of anything more insulting than the suggestion that I might have to use a keris to protect myself from a street dog when the act of simply bending over to pick up a rock would send it flying away like the wind .

22nd September 2005, 12:13 PM	#4
simatua Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 69	Here some more pictures. For a Balinese infact it is a very short blade about 44 cm. For myself i think the sheath is made from some kind of root/ wortel? Attached Images

24th September 2005, 04:19 PM	#7
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Flowery Insults ? I personally can't think of anything more insulting than the suggestion that I might have to use a keris to protect myself from a street dog when the act of simply bending over to pick up a rock would send it flying away like the wind .

21st September 2005, 02:12 PM	#2
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	And btw, its a real nice Balinese keris here. Can Simatua please post more pictures of the top sheath please? A straight shot of the top sheath would be nice.

21st September 2005, 10:07 PM	#3
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	No Kai Wee, i'm a kerisofanatic! There's a difference!

23rd September 2005, 04:32 PM	#5
purwacarita Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 54	Hi simatua. I think that if you see the keris from beauty perspective, you would not care even if it is not originally from places as said. If you see from yoni perspective, you would not care if the keris is either 1 year old or 1000 years old. Just remember that what people say as kadutan, or pusaka, or pertimi, is not because the keris has those properties, but because people see it as such. For example, I'd love to say a pusaka as a historical pertimi or historicable pertimi. But somebody else can say his keris, pusaka, because the kadutan has saved his life (CE:from getting biten by his neighbor's dog), and I could not blame him for saying his keris so. Because he is 100% right. So Be Careful.

24th September 2005, 01:30 AM	#6
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	You know Martin, Purwa might have a point here. I mean, why should we bother to try and determine anything about our keris when they can be anything we want them to be if we can see them from the yoni perspective. So when an unscrupulous keris dealer mahars a keris to you at $1000 and tells you it is a powerful pusaka when in fact it was made yesterday by a skilled craftman in Madura it shouldn't matter, right, because "what people say as kadutan, or pusaka, or pertimi, is not because the keris has those properties, but because people see it as such."???