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Old 5th November 2012, 09:37 PM   #1
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To my eye it is a cut down small sword....
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Old 6th November 2012, 12:49 PM   #2
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To my eye it is a cut down small sword....
Hello freebooter

I think that it is too small to be cut down small sword.
Here is for the comparison these two. The sword is Swedish infantry officers sword pattern 1790.

I found this picture from the net. It is part of larger picture so it is very poor quality. The text didn't mentioned it other but that is about 15th or 16th century. I don't put link, because it is in antique traders page.

Of course it's not identical, but some features are alike. And, Atlantia, it is possible, that it is a sharpening steel but it is also possible that it is not. It is possible, that it's not either, but something else altogether. That is what I am doing, searching for proof for identification.
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Old 7th November 2012, 08:44 AM   #3
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In addition, and to clarify post# 7, herewith pictures of some 15/16th century style characteristics that also can be seen on the dagger under discussion;

a stiff flat diamond shaped blade, flat or hollow grounded faces.
a rhombus rectangle on the gripcap or plate in case of a rondel dager, under the peened tang
a bulky steel grip
a small thumbguard (missing!)
a (baluster) shaped ricasso

unfortunately length cannot be a criterion, the length of 16th century stilettos can range from around 25cm to just under 50cm allover.

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Old 7th November 2012, 05:21 PM   #4
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Thank you very much cornelistromp. You truly are a gentlemen and a scholar.

I think it is safe to say, that this is what you said in your first message. This your second message and the pictures are very clarifying.

Now that I see the thumb guard which you wrote earlier, it has just the place in the dagger (I think it's OK to call it a dagger now) and where it has broken off.

The marks are a little bit annoying, but what you said about being gunners marks or something is maybe closest we can ever get.

I enclose some pictures.
Thank you also fernando, Atlantia, freebooter and theswordcollector to taking part to my quest.
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