Translation help - Arabic

Dave1104 · 5th November 2012, 02:47 AM

I have a Jordanian shibriya purchased in Amman, Jordan in 1978. Can someone help me with a translation of the maker's mark on the blade? I believe I can read "Hakim" in the top line. Is it Haj Hakim? No idea about the next two lines.

Also, does anyone have any idea what the handle is made of? It seems a natural material, but I am unsure.

Thanks,
Dave

AJ1356 · 5th November 2012, 02:55 AM

Amal Alhaaj Haashem

Dave1104 · 5th November 2012, 04:08 AM

Thank you AJ. Any idea about the bottom two lines?

Dave

T. Koch · 5th November 2012, 06:21 AM

Hi Dave,

That's a great little dagger - thanks for posting! I'm sure somebody will be along with more information, but in the meantime I can tell you that the hilt scales are for certain carved from buffalo/cow horn.

Do you know if these knives were used for actual fighting or are they simply carried for display. If for fighting, how would it be held in hand when used - tip up or tip down?

- thanks for sharing it!

Best wishes, - Thor

Dave1104 · 5th November 2012, 03:48 PM

Thor,
I am not an expert on these knives, and would defer to others on this forum that are more knowledgeable. One posting in the past

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=desert+police)

gives you some information that the knives are used for both defense and offense, but will be carried by most males in traditional dress in Jordan. So I suspect that it would mostly be for custom (especially these days, as is the case with most traditional knives), but that they could indeed be used as intended if the occasion arose. As for how they would be employed (tip up or down), I have no knowledge. If it came down to my needing to use it, I would go into the fight with the tip up, but that is because of my self defense training in college over 30 years ago. I would hope that I never have to find out.

Thanks for the confirmation of the handle material.

Dave

Dom · 6th November 2012, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave1104

Thor,
I am not an expert on these knives, and would defer to others on this forum that are more knowledgeable. One posting in the past

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=desert+police)

gives you some information that the knives are used for both defense and offense, but will be carried by most males in traditional dress in Jordan. So I suspect that it would mostly be for custom (especially these days, as is the case with most traditional knives), but that they could indeed be used as intended if the occasion arose. As for how they would be employed (tip up or down), I have no knowledge. If it came down to my needing to use it, I would go into the fight with the tip up, but that is because of my self defense training in college over 30 years ago. I would hope that I never have to find out.

Thanks for the confirmation of the handle material.

Dave

Hi Dave
nice Shabria, the hilt could be done with Aries horn

all knife/daggers have the function to be lethal

the shabria, is yet wearing as part of uniform, by some Jordan desert troops
have a look here, you will learn a lot

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=jordan+knife

the translation complete should be ("should" ... because some reserves)

the 2 last names aren't Arabic

AMAL AL HAJ HACHEEM WOUCHANE KHAWOUGY
made par le "Haj" (pilgrim) Hacheem Wouchane (?) Khawougy (?)

all the best

à +

Dom

5th November 2012, 02:47 AM	#1
Dave1104 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Translation help - Arabic I have a Jordanian shibriya purchased in Amman, Jordan in 1978. Can someone help me with a translation of the maker's mark on the blade? I believe I can read "Hakim" in the top line. Is it Haj Hakim? No idea about the next two lines. Also, does anyone have any idea what the handle is made of? It seems a natural material, but I am unsure. Thanks, Dave Attached Images

5th November 2012, 02:55 AM	#2
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	Amal Alhaaj Haashem

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Dave1104 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Thank you AJ. Any idea about the bottom two lines? Dave

5th November 2012, 06:21 AM	#4
T. Koch Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mother North Posts: 189	Hi Dave, That's a great little dagger - thanks for posting! I'm sure somebody will be along with more information, but in the meantime I can tell you that the hilt scales are for certain carved from buffalo/cow horn. Do you know if these knives were used for actual fighting or are they simply carried for display. If for fighting, how would it be held in hand when used - tip up or tip down? - thanks for sharing it! Best wishes, - Thor

5th November 2012, 03:48 PM	#5
Dave1104 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 23	Thor, I am not an expert on these knives, and would defer to others on this forum that are more knowledgeable. One posting in the past http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=desert+police) gives you some information that the knives are used for both defense and offense, but will be carried by most males in traditional dress in Jordan. So I suspect that it would mostly be for custom (especially these days, as is the case with most traditional knives), but that they could indeed be used as intended if the occasion arose. As for how they would be employed (tip up or down), I have no knowledge. If it came down to my needing to use it, I would go into the fight with the tip up, but that is because of my self defense training in college over 30 years ago. I would hope that I never have to find out. Thanks for the confirmation of the handle material. Dave