Figural !

[David]

Thanks Jean, though i'm pretty sure that's bone, probably from the latter side of the 20th Century. I found another quite similar one on the net that claimed itself as 1950s Madura, but who knows. Never quite been sure exactly where this one hails from, though it came on an old Jawa blade.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by David

Thanks Jean, though i'm pretty sure that's bone, probably from the latter side of the 20th Century. I found another quite similar one on the net that claimed itself as 1950s Madura, but who knows. Never quite been sure exactly where this one hails from, though it came on an old Jawa blade.

David, I don't think that they are made from buffalo or whale bone or even antler although one was repaired at the peksi hole, but rather from dugong tusk? There is no cap on the top, no porous surface or pits inside or outside, and no sign of discolouring with time. I agree that they are probably about 20-30 years old only, and the piece depicting a priest was dyed. I rather doubt about the Madurese origin or they would be more common in Java; these pieces were purchased in Lombok (not by myself) from a reputed dealer.
Regards

[David]

Originally Posted by Jean

David, I don't think that they are made from buffalo or whale bone or even antler although one was repaired at the peksi hole, but rather from dugong tusk? There is no cap on the top, no porous surface or pits inside or outside, and no sign of discolouring with time. I agree that they are probably about 20-30 years old only, and the piece depicting a priest was dyed. I rather doubt about the Madurese origin or they would be more common in Java; these pieces were purchased in Lombok (not by myself) from a reputed dealer.
Regards

Jean, i was not referring to your hilts at all, but to the comment you made about my "ivory bird head" piece. This one does have a top cap and is probably bone.

[Battara]

Ok here is my one and only ivory and gold Balinese hilt of Ravana.........

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Ok here is my one and only ivory and gold Balinese hilt of Ravana.........

Beautiful hilt!

[Sajen]

Here a small Bali hilt from areng wood showing Membrayut.

[Sajen]

And here a old Bali hilt from Brass set with stones.

Someone know who it is?

[Battara]

Originally Posted by Battara

Ok here is my one and only ivory and gold Balinese hilt of Ravana.........

Sorry for not responding - thank you.

Also I did the gold mounts myself (hope they are not too aweful.... )

[Battara]

Did not realize there was such a variation of hilts......

[Sajen]

Originally Posted by Battara

Sorry for not responding - thank you.

Also I did the gold mounts myself (hope they are not too aweful.... )

Haven't realised that it isn't original!

[Jean]

Three peculiar Javanese hilts in figural style.
Regards

[asian-keris]

Like

[Marcokeris]

I like too

[ganjawulung]

Some cirebonese hilts with 'buta bajang' motives and also 'pulungan'...

Ganjawulung Collection

[ganjawulung]

Some cirebonese 'buta bajang' hilt and Rajamala of Tegal, Central Java....

Ganjawulung Collection

[Jean]

Originally Posted by ganjawulung

Some cirebonese hilts with 'buta bajang' motives and also 'pulungan'...

Ganjawulung Collection

Dear Ganja,
What is the difference betwen the 2 types, I observe that some specimens wear a sort of crown and Garuda mungkur in the back, is it what makes the difference?
Regards

[HughChen]

hilt

[milandro]

Originally Posted by HughChen

hilt

Are you sure this is a Kris hilt?

I think that this may be a the hilt ( or rather the handle) of a Betelnut chisel or cutter

they are generally more ornate and have often this truncated cone shape

these were sold (terminated auction, therefore allowed) and in my view are similar

[HughChen]

items of a finished auction. Very high quality.

[David]

Originally Posted by HughChen

items of a finished auction. Very high quality.

These are nice carvings Hugh, but honestly i would hesitate to label them as VERY high quality. First of all, usually the highest quality would be reserved for ivory, not only a more valuable material, but one that lends itself to a more detailed level of carving than bone. But even bone can be carved to a higher level of carving than the examples you show. Please understand i am not saying those examples are undesirable. As i stated, they are really nice hilts that i would surely welcome into my collection. But i just wanted you to be aware that they are not the highest level of Balinese carving skill.

[Jean]

Originally Posted by David

Jean, i was not referring to your hilts at all, but to the comment you made about my "ivory bird head" piece. This one does have a top cap and is probably bone.

David, sorry for the confusion!
And I finally show you a peculiar ivory hilt deemed to originate from South Sumatra.
Regards