MOST DESIRED OCEANIC WAR CLUBS: 2 COOK ISLANDS

Dom · 25th August 2012, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

I INCLUDE TWO PICTURES OF STONE POINTS FOR COMPARISON. THE SERRATED EDGE WAS AROUND IN STONE AND WOOD LONG BEFORE IT WAS DONE IN METAL..

Hi Vandoo
funny, was my thought when I saw the metal blade in shape of prehistoric artifacts ... in stone
I've several heads arrow in stone, I've collected them in South Algerian (Timimoun area) Sahara, where I've been resident for years, stone artifacts old ± 5500 years
one of them has exactly the same barbs, and then when I've read your comments,
I've laughed, you was fully correct, look at my pic

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Dom

VANDOO · 26th August 2012, 06:10 PM

ONE MORE PICTURE SHOWING THE CLUB AND A SPEAR. THIS FORM OF CLUB MAY BE BOTH CLUB AND SPEAR IN FUNCTION SORT OF LIKE A POLE ARM. THE OTHER IS LIKELY ONLY USED AS A SPEAR. PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH BETTER REFRENCES ON THE WEAPONS OF THE COOK ISLANDS CAN ELABORATE.

Diceman · 7th February 2013, 01:32 AM

This might help?

From, Pacific Encounters by Hooper

T. Koch · 7th February 2013, 02:20 PM

I've just seen one of these guys estimated at $100,000 - 150,000.- at an upcoming auction.

Weird then, that the book desribes it as "common in collections"... Although, I guess it depends on who your collector friends are?

Holy crap, I want one soooooo bad!!

Thanks for posting the picture - I hope this thread lives on for long and keeps growing!

Best regards, - Thor

Diceman · 8th February 2013, 12:23 AM

I saw that too. I also saw one go for over 300k in 2010.

I have more info on these in some of my reference books, I will see what I can come up with.

VANDOO · 9th September 2013, 06:54 PM

THREE PICTURES OF A HAND CLUB SAID TO BE FROM THE COOK ISLANDS IT WAS CALLED POO RAPA AND IS 14.5 INCHES LONG AND 5 INCHES WIDE, ESTIMATED COLLECTION DATE 1910 TO 1940. LIKELY A CEREMONIAL ITEM RATHER THAN A WAR CLUB UNLESS USED SOMEWHAT LIKE A WAR FAN MOSTLY FOR DEFELCTING AND BLOCKING. I HAVE NO REFRENCE EXCEPT WHAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE SELLER.
ONE PICTURE OF A SOUVINEER CLUB SUCH AS YOU WOULD FIND IN THE COOK ISLANDS TODAY.

VANDOO · 25th September 2013, 02:56 AM

I FOUND SOME NEW INFORMATION ON THE COOK ISLANDS, RARATONGA ISLAND AND MANGAIAN ISLAND CLUBS. FIND FULL INFORMATION HERE.

http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/schol...cArts286a.html

1. RARATONGA CLUBS
2, 3 & 4. MANGAIAN SHORT CLUB
5.RARATONGAN SPEARS
6. RARATONGAN CLUBS
7. RARATONGAN SHORT CLUB
8. RARATONGAN CLUB SHOULDER DESIGNS

26th August 2012, 06:10 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	ONE MORE PICTURE SHOWING THE CLUB AND A SPEAR. THIS FORM OF CLUB MAY BE BOTH CLUB AND SPEAR IN FUNCTION SORT OF LIKE A POLE ARM. THE OTHER IS LIKELY ONLY USED AS A SPEAR. PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH BETTER REFRENCES ON THE WEAPONS OF THE COOK ISLANDS CAN ELABORATE. Attached Images

7th February 2013, 01:32 AM	#3
Diceman Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas Posts: 11	This might help? From, Pacific Encounters by Hooper Attached Images

9th September 2013, 06:54 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THREE PICTURES OF A HAND CLUB SAID TO BE FROM THE COOK ISLANDS IT WAS CALLED POO RAPA AND IS 14.5 INCHES LONG AND 5 INCHES WIDE, ESTIMATED COLLECTION DATE 1910 TO 1940. LIKELY A CEREMONIAL ITEM RATHER THAN A WAR CLUB UNLESS USED SOMEWHAT LIKE A WAR FAN MOSTLY FOR DEFELCTING AND BLOCKING. I HAVE NO REFRENCE EXCEPT WHAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE SELLER. ONE PICTURE OF A SOUVINEER CLUB SUCH AS YOU WOULD FIND IN THE COOK ISLANDS TODAY. Attached Images

25th September 2013, 02:56 AM	#7
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I FOUND SOME NEW INFORMATION ON THE COOK ISLANDS, RARATONGA ISLAND AND MANGAIAN ISLAND CLUBS. FIND FULL INFORMATION HERE. http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/schol...cArts286a.html 1. RARATONGA CLUBS 2, 3 & 4. MANGAIAN SHORT CLUB 5.RARATONGAN SPEARS 6. RARATONGAN CLUBS 7. RARATONGAN SHORT CLUB 8. RARATONGAN CLUB SHOULDER DESIGNS Attached Images Last edited by VANDOO; 25th September 2013 at 03:30 AM.

7th February 2013, 02:20 PM	#4
T. Koch Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Mother North Posts: 189	I've just seen one of these guys estimated at $100,000 - 150,000.- at an upcoming auction. Weird then, that the book desribes it as "common in collections"... Although, I guess it depends on who your collector friends are? Holy crap, I want one soooooo bad!! Thanks for posting the picture - I hope this thread lives on for long and keeps growing! Best regards, - Thor

8th February 2013, 12:23 AM	#5
Diceman Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kansas Posts: 11	I saw that too. I also saw one go for over 300k in 2010. I have more info on these in some of my reference books, I will see what I can come up with.