Mixed Bag

Aurangzeb · 14th August 2005, 04:24 AM

Hi All!

These three daggers have been in my collection for a while now. The kindjal is well made and the blade is sharp, the sheath is made with good quailty silver and brass. The other two are Jordanian shabariyasof very recent make but are very well made with sharp good thick steel blades and a fine quality silver and brass sheath. I first want to know where the kindjal comes from and a possible age. Also hopefully someone can translate the makers marks on the Jordanian dagger blades and why on the large one is the eagle of Saladinwhich seems to be associated with Egypt not Jordan? Any comments and information is more than welcome!

Mark...

Aurangzeb · 17th August 2005, 03:16 PM

Does this mean no one can translate the makers marks or where the kindjal is from?

Aurangzeb · 11th September 2005, 03:42 AM

No One????

ariel · 11th September 2005, 01:51 PM

It seems to me that the Kindjal is of recent Russian or Georgian mass manufacture.
I may be wrong due to quality of pics; maybe you can post better ones.

erlikhan · 11th September 2005, 02:18 PM

The scabbard is recent for sure. If the blade is as sharp as you told,it can be an original old blade mounted to modern hilt and scabbard, but can be a modern over average quality mass produced or hand forged blade as well.

nechesh · 11th September 2005, 06:13 PM

I know it can sometimes be misleading to take things at face value, but isn't this blade marked 2003? Is there any reason not to assume that is the date of manufacture.

erlikhan · 11th September 2005, 11:21 PM

yes but 2003 writes on the Arabic ones and Aurangzeb already accepts they are newly made. He's not sure about the kindjal.

Rick · 12th September 2005, 01:05 AM

Well , I guess we'll need a picture of the kindjal blade then .

14th August 2005, 04:24 AM	#1
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Mixed Bag Hi All! These three daggers have been in my collection for a while now. The kindjal is well made and the blade is sharp, the sheath is made with good quailty silver and brass. The other two are Jordanian shabariyasof very recent make but are very well made with sharp good thick steel blades and a fine quality silver and brass sheath. I first want to know where the kindjal comes from and a possible age. Also hopefully someone can translate the makers marks on the Jordanian dagger blades and why on the large one is the eagle of Saladinwhich seems to be associated with Egypt not Jordan? Any comments and information is more than welcome! Mark... Attached Images

11th September 2005, 02:18 PM	#5
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	The scabbard is recent for sure. If the blade is as sharp as you told,it can be an original old blade mounted to modern hilt and scabbard, but can be a modern over average quality mass produced or hand forged blade as well. Last edited by erlikhan; 12th September 2005 at 01:46 AM.

17th August 2005, 03:16 PM	#2
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	Does this mean no one can translate the makers marks or where the kindjal is from?

11th September 2005, 03:42 AM	#3
Aurangzeb Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 306	No One????

11th September 2005, 01:51 PM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	It seems to me that the Kindjal is of recent Russian or Georgian mass manufacture. I may be wrong due to quality of pics; maybe you can post better ones.

11th September 2005, 06:13 PM	#6
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	I know it can sometimes be misleading to take things at face value, but isn't this blade marked 2003? Is there any reason not to assume that is the date of manufacture.

11th September 2005, 11:21 PM	#7
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	yes but 2003 writes on the Arabic ones and Aurangzeb already accepts they are newly made. He's not sure about the kindjal.

12th September 2005, 01:05 AM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,339	Well , I guess we'll need a picture of the kindjal blade then .