A Very Old Kris

migueldiaz · 15th August 2012, 06:32 PM

these gold hilts i'll show are all from the 10th to 13th century a.d. and these gold hilts constitute the 'universe', meaning there's no other 10th to 13th c. gold hilts that can found (except those in private collection, but i suppose they are fewer).

the first one exhibits a rectangular hole in the hilt, hence a rectangular tang.

migueldiaz · 15th August 2012, 06:34 PM

the 2nd hilt's tang opening can't be seen from the way it's displayed at the museum. i think next time i'll bring a mirror and a flashlight, to get that angle where we can see what we need to see.

migueldiaz · 15th August 2012, 06:37 PM

next up are these two 'hilts', in which one has a circular hole for the tang, while the other has a rectangular hole where the tang passes.

i put quote marks on the word hilt above, because i have doubts whether these are hilts at all. but for the time being, let's go by what the museum says.

migueldiaz · 15th August 2012, 06:39 PM

now this is a real nice gold hilt. and the tang hole is clearly a square.

migueldiaz · 15th August 2012, 06:41 PM

the tang hole in this one is unique -- it's triangular!

migueldiaz · 15th August 2012, 06:43 PM

this guy i totally missed when i went to the museum this morning. we will see later.

migueldiaz · 15th August 2012, 06:46 PM

another rectangular tang hole, and part of the tang can actually be seen on the specimen.

note: all these pics i'm posting are being cobbled from various sources, but i personally checked out the specimens at the museums, to find out the inferred tang shapes.

15th August 2012, 06:32 PM	#1
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	these gold hilts i'll show are all from the 10th to 13th century a.d. and these gold hilts constitute the 'universe', meaning there's no other 10th to 13th c. gold hilts that can found (except those in private collection, but i suppose they are fewer). the first one exhibits a rectangular hole in the hilt, hence a rectangular tang. Attached Images

15th August 2012, 06:34 PM	#2
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	the 2nd hilt's tang opening can't be seen from the way it's displayed at the museum. i think next time i'll bring a mirror and a flashlight, to get that angle where we can see what we need to see. Attached Images

15th August 2012, 06:37 PM	#3
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	next up are these two 'hilts', in which one has a circular hole for the tang, while the other has a rectangular hole where the tang passes. i put quote marks on the word hilt above, because i have doubts whether these are hilts at all. but for the time being, let's go by what the museum says. Attached Images

15th August 2012, 06:39 PM	#4
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	now this is a real nice gold hilt. and the tang hole is clearly a square. Attached Images

15th August 2012, 06:41 PM	#5
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	the tang hole in this one is unique -- it's triangular! Attached Images

15th August 2012, 06:43 PM	#6
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	this guy i totally missed when i went to the museum this morning. we will see later. Attached Images

15th August 2012, 06:46 PM	#7
migueldiaz Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Manila, Phils. Posts: 1,042	another rectangular tang hole, and part of the tang can actually be seen on the specimen. note: all these pics i'm posting are being cobbled from various sources, but i personally checked out the specimens at the museums, to find out the inferred tang shapes. Attached Images