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7th July 2012, 10:34 PM
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8th July 2012, 03:58 PM
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Exactly, Valjuhn,
Sorry for overlooking that thread. You can identify your type of sword among the group displayed on the right in the photo from the Doges Palace at Venice I posted above. Best, Michael Last edited by Matchlock; 8th July 2012 at 04:15 PM. |
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8th July 2012, 04:23 PM
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These Venetian swords are referred to in Armi Bianche, 1975.
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22nd July 2012, 04:18 PM
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Hi all,
I just come back home and read all your posts. Let me thank you for your interest and the photos as well. I learned so much...Great and cool !!! The thread "Schiavona and swords variations" was also very helpful. About the Passau wolf on the blade, is it coherent to say that a blade could have been made in Passau and guard, pommel, quillons in Hungary.? I read on Oakeshott books that parts of the swords can be made in several locations and put togheter in one. Blades due to their costs were often reused and swords becoming then composite. What about that? All the best Alain |
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22nd July 2012, 05:35 PM
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Hi Alain, Although blades, just like barrels, were exported widely it is more reasonable to assume that a blade showing a wolf mark and combined with an Eastern European hilt was most probably made in the same country as the hilt and, as I pointed out, the wolf was copied as a traditional trade mark because it was generally associated with superior quality. Best, Michael |
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23rd July 2012, 05:38 AM
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I HAVE JUST ENJOYED REVISITING AND READING THIS POST AND LOOKING AT THE PRETTY PICTURES. I NOTICIED SOMETHING ABOUT ONE EXAMPLE I POSTED EARLY IN THE POST. HERE IS A PICTURE OF IT SO YOU WON'T HAVE TO GO SEARCH TO SEE WHAT I AM REFERRING TO.
THE GAURD IS FORMED WITH FINGER JOINTS AND A CLAW AT THE END. PERHAPS A DRAGON OR CHIMERAS CLAWS ARE REPRESENTED. VERY COOL DON'T SEE HOW I MISSED IT BEFORE. 
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23rd July 2012, 07:02 PM
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Thanks Michael for explanations.
So how someone can recognize a blade made in Passau and one with a wolf mark on it on it? What differentiates them? Thank for helping Best Alain |
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24th July 2012, 02:24 PM
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Hi Barry, I have sometimes seen those joints elaborated as actual human fingers on rapier hilts! m Last edited by Matchlock; 24th July 2012 at 08:14 PM. |
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