Two handed swords

cornelistromp · 22nd June 2012, 08:08 PM

Hi Michael,

thanks for the interesting discussion, but I do not expect that soon I would enter such a discussion with you about early firearms.

mit freundlichem Gruss,
Jasper

Matchlock · 24th June 2012, 05:36 PM

Two-handed processional swords, late 16th c., including flambergs, on exhibition in the Imperial Castle (Kaiserburg) Nuremberg; inaptly presented against a woodcut of early-16th c. date depicting much earlier Landsknecht swords.

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sioume · 8th September 2012, 11:49 PM

Hello all,

I am rather a tenderfoot here and still a novice in collecting swords but I just wish to add something to this very interesting thread.

Regarding Jean Marc's swords the discussion focus about smith's marks, shape of blades, ....this to identify origin and authenticity.
So as a tenderfoot I ask a question...Does studying marks is enough in that case?

I learned that the best way to identify the authenticity of a sword is to focus first on the patina and mainly on the remaining rust. How rust is, lamination, colors...? and I am surprised that this subject has not been touched on.
Same thing with how the iron was worked, forged.
Isn't it easier to counterfeit hallmarks than a blade and its patina?

If anyone could give me an answer that will enlighten me.
Thanks a lot
Alain

Matchlock · 15th September 2012, 04:08 PM

For a wonderfully detailed painting of 1533 showing early-16th. c. two-handed swords, please see:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16116

Best,
Michael

24th June 2012, 05:36 PM	#2
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Two-handed processional swords, late 16th c., including flambergs, on exhibition in the Imperial Castle (Kaiserburg) Nuremberg; inaptly presented against a woodcut of early-16th c. date depicting much earlier Landsknecht swords. m Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 24th June 2012 at 07:58 PM.

22nd June 2012, 08:08 PM	#1
cornelistromp Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,060	Hi Michael, thanks for the interesting discussion, but I do not expect that soon I would enter such a discussion with you about early firearms. mit freundlichem Gruss, Jasper

8th September 2012, 11:49 PM	#3
sioume Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 12	Hello all, I am rather a tenderfoot here and still a novice in collecting swords but I just wish to add something to this very interesting thread. Regarding Jean Marc's swords the discussion focus about smith's marks, shape of blades, ....this to identify origin and authenticity. So as a tenderfoot I ask a question...Does studying marks is enough in that case? I learned that the best way to identify the authenticity of a sword is to focus first on the patina and mainly on the remaining rust. How rust is, lamination, colors...? and I am surprised that this subject has not been touched on. Same thing with how the iron was worked, forged. Isn't it easier to counterfeit hallmarks than a blade and its patina? If anyone could give me an answer that will enlighten me. Thanks a lot Alain

15th September 2012, 04:08 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	For a wonderfully detailed painting of 1533 showing early-16th. c. two-handed swords, please see: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=16116 Best, Michael