New Keris/Keris baru

A. G. Maisey · 8th June 2012, 02:00 PM

I've never seen Holstein so I cannot comment. Groneman I find interesting from a historical perspective.

For somebody with an interest in the culture of the keris I believe that the best book to begin with is Visible and Invisible Realms-Margaret J.Wiener.

For somebody more interested in the physical entity itself, The World of the Javanese Keris-Garrett and Bronwen Solyom, and The Kris-An Earthly Approach to a Cosmic Symbol-David van Duuren.

For somebody who wishes to explore the fields of knowledge which embrace the keris:- Krisses-A critical Bibliography-David van Duuren.

Here is a link to a reading list that is perhaps as good as anywhere to begin the accumulation of printed matter dealing with the keris:-

http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/kerisinformation.html

you will find publishing details of the books I mention in this list.

ariel · 8th June 2012, 05:32 PM

David:
"It's starting to sound like you might be getting more serious about kerns collecting Ariel."

I got 2 interesting ( I think) ones that I showed here, and 3 old ones, Javanese, that were tangguh-ed by somebody as being very old ( down to 14th century!), which may not impress you :-), and they were discussed here years ago, and.... who knows:-)

David · 9th June 2012, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

David:
"It's starting to sound like you might be getting more serious about kerns collecting Ariel."

I got 2 interesting ( I think) ones that I showed here, and 3 old ones, Javanese, that were tangguh-ed by somebody as being very old ( down to 14th century!), which may not impress you :-), and they were discussed here years ago, and.... who knows:-)

....hmmm....does that mean i might be right?

(and boy do i hate this auto-correct spelling...thinks when i write "keris" that i mean "kerns"

)

ariel · 9th June 2012, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

....hmmm....does that mean i might be right?

(and boy do i hate this auto-correct spelling...thinks when i write "keris" that i mean "kerns"

)

Maybe it is the keris itself that is trying to tell you something? You know, they have magical powers :-)

rasdan · 12th June 2012, 05:12 AM

Thank you Alan for the kind explanation on the importance of tangguh system in evaluating the quality of a Javanese keris.

A. G. Maisey · 12th June 2012, 07:14 AM

You're welcome Rasdan.

ariel · 13th June 2012, 12:07 AM

Gentlemen,
I have mentioned earlier my 3 kerises that were once discussed on this Forum ( no special Keris section then :-))

Lew was kind enough to help me in locating this thread, so I am citing it here:

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001790.html

Please, feel free to comment.
Thanks in advance for your lessons.

David · 9th June 2012, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

For somebody with an interest in the culture of the keris I believe that the best book to begin with is Visible and Invisible Realms-Margaret J.Wiener.
For somebody more interested in the physical entity itself, The World of the Javanese Keris-Garrett and Bronwen Solyom, and The Kris-An Earthly Approach to a Cosmic Symbol-David van Duuren.
For somebody who wishes to explore the fields of knowledge which embrace the keris:- Krisses-A critical Bibliography-David van Duuren.

From my own limited perspective, i concur...

ariel · 9th June 2012, 01:35 PM

David:

"....and boy do i hate this auto-correct spelling...thinks when i write "keris" that i mean "kerns"

Maybe it is the keris itself is trying to tell you something? You know, they have magical powers :-)

8th June 2012, 02:00 PM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	I've never seen Holstein so I cannot comment. Groneman I find interesting from a historical perspective. For somebody with an interest in the culture of the keris I believe that the best book to begin with is Visible and Invisible Realms-Margaret J.Wiener. For somebody more interested in the physical entity itself, The World of the Javanese Keris-Garrett and Bronwen Solyom, and The Kris-An Earthly Approach to a Cosmic Symbol-David van Duuren. For somebody who wishes to explore the fields of knowledge which embrace the keris:- Krisses-A critical Bibliography-David van Duuren. Here is a link to a reading list that is perhaps as good as anywhere to begin the accumulation of printed matter dealing with the keris:- http://www.kerisattosanaji.com/kerisinformation.html you will find publishing details of the books I mention in this list.

8th June 2012, 05:32 PM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	David: "It's starting to sound like you might be getting more serious about kerns collecting Ariel." I got 2 interesting ( I think) ones that I showed here, and 3 old ones, Javanese, that were tangguh-ed by somebody as being very old ( down to 14th century!), which may not impress you :-), and they were discussed here years ago, and.... who knows:-)

12th June 2012, 05:12 AM	#5
rasdan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 369	Thank you Alan for the kind explanation on the importance of tangguh system in evaluating the quality of a Javanese keris.

12th June 2012, 07:14 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,015	You're welcome Rasdan.

13th June 2012, 12:07 AM	#7
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Gentlemen, I have mentioned earlier my 3 kerises that were once discussed on this Forum ( no special Keris section then :-)) Lew was kind enough to help me in locating this thread, so I am citing it here: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001790.html Please, feel free to comment. Thanks in advance for your lessons.

9th June 2012, 01:35 PM	#9
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	David: "....and boy do i hate this auto-correct spelling...thinks when i write "keris" that i mean "kerns" Maybe it is the keris itself is trying to tell you something? You know, they have magical powers :-)