New keris

John · 1st September 2005, 11:37 AM

Some interesting perspectives Boedhi and I'm particularly interested in your elaborations on certain keris parts/attributes like the peksi, ganga, tikel alis, tilam upih etc. Apparantly we're also along the same line in this respect at another forum which barely have progressed but perhaps you could also help in expanding the list and fill more. I guess there are further resources (brains) here to draw (pick) on too.

http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...hread&tid=1395

I'd agree the peksi represents the phallus and the ganja the female part and as a unit may be a representation of the Shiva lingam. If so, I'd say this is a representation of the absolute, call it God of you like for Shiva is the destroyer and the destroyer transcends duality represented by mergence of the male/female, positive/negative attributes. Brahma is more associated with birth, hence my reasoning opposite to that of yours since it's not Brahma oriented if indeed so. At this juncture, I'd say it's still a conjecture on my part.

Here's an example of the shiva lingam.

purwacarita · 3rd September 2005, 04:33 AM

Hi John. Shiva lingam does not even look like keris. How does keris resemble it?

John · 3rd September 2005, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by purwacarita

Hi John. Shiva lingam does not even look like keris. How does keris resemble it?

Certainly not the keris but in the context of the peksi (penis) and ganja (vagina).

purwacarita · 3rd September 2005, 11:21 AM

Hi John. Very fascinating though. Regarding that keris as believed is once legendary weapon of gods and depicted if they manifest themselves into Buta when they are very angry. Wisnhu also handle weapons in his Buta manifestation and do some damages with them. Brahma also share the same nature.

1st September 2005, 11:37 AM	#1
John Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Land below the wind Posts: 135	Some interesting perspectives Boedhi and I'm particularly interested in your elaborations on certain keris parts/attributes like the peksi, ganga, tikel alis, tilam upih etc. Apparantly we're also along the same line in this respect at another forum which barely have progressed but perhaps you could also help in expanding the list and fill more. I guess there are further resources (brains) here to draw (pick) on too. http://www.kampungnet.com.sg/modules...hread&tid=1395 I'd agree the peksi represents the phallus and the ganja the female part and as a unit may be a representation of the Shiva lingam. If so, I'd say this is a representation of the absolute, call it God of you like for Shiva is the destroyer and the destroyer transcends duality represented by mergence of the male/female, positive/negative attributes. Brahma is more associated with birth, hence my reasoning opposite to that of yours since it's not Brahma oriented if indeed so. At this juncture, I'd say it's still a conjecture on my part. Here's an example of the shiva lingam. Attached Images

3rd September 2005, 04:33 AM	#2
purwacarita Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 54	Hi John. Shiva lingam does not even look like keris. How does keris resemble it?

3rd September 2005, 11:21 AM	#4
purwacarita Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 54	Hi John. Very fascinating though. Regarding that keris as believed is once legendary weapon of gods and depicted if they manifest themselves into Buta when they are very angry. Wisnhu also handle weapons in his Buta manifestation and do some damages with them. Brahma also share the same nature.