Keris Salayer ?

Alam Shah · 16th April 2012, 07:44 AM

Hi Henri, interesting ensemble you've got there. The hilt is uniquely Salayar, "Pangulu Le'ngo" (le'nga) form, as it's called by the locals. The interesting keris blade, I cannot confirm. The hilt cup (pendokok, kili-kili) is Sumatran. The sari bulan sheath, may be Sumatran or Peninsular Malay to me. Overall a nice find, congrats!

dbhmgb · 16th April 2012, 11:24 AM

Indeed, a very nice keris. That hilt is quite fascinating!

asomotif · 16th April 2012, 12:01 PM

Lovely keris Henri.

The hilt is indeed very salayer.
But how would a salayer blade look like. is there a specific salayer blade style ?

Best regards,
Willem

kai · 16th April 2012, 05:24 PM

Nice grab for sure - congrats, Henri!

IMHO, the blade also seems to have a Straits feel to it. My best guess would be that this is a Sumatran/Straits keris that found its way into the hands of a Salayer/Selayer owner who decided to rehilt it according to local fashion. The pesi is weird though - has anyone disassembled a Selayer badik or two?

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 16th April 2012, 07:29 PM

Hello Henri,

very good grab you have done with this keris! For the hilt you can look as well to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=badik

Agree with kai that the pesi is a little bit weird. BTW, I never have disassembled my Salayer badik and can't tell if the pesi is similar.

Again, a very interesting keris and I am a little bit green with envy!

Regards,

Detlef

asomotif · 17th April 2012, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Agree with kai that the pesi is a little bit weird. BTW, I never have disassembled my Salayer badik and can't tell if the pesi is similar.

Again, a very interesting keris and I am a little bit green with envy!

Regards,

Detlef

I checked my salayer badek.
I am not going to remove the blade from the handel, but as far as I can see the blade appears to remain flattened into the handle.
So a flattened tang/pesi on the badek imho.

I agree on the "green with envy" part

henri · 17th April 2012, 11:30 AM

Thank you all for your inputs .
Kai is really close to my initial thoughts : a sumatran keris brought back to Salayer and re hilted according local fashion .

Regarding the hilt : cleaning is on the way but I removed the blade from the " juice " to take some photos of the pesi . Surprisingly a piece of metal was welded to the original ( to strengthen or to match the hilt ?) .... with an unsual goldish alloy ???? Never seen such metal used for welding .....

Henri

David · 17th April 2012, 01:56 PM

Well that is odd. Never seen anything quite like it.

17th April 2012, 11:30 AM	#7
henri Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 81	Thank you all for your inputs . Kai is really close to my initial thoughts : a sumatran keris brought back to Salayer and re hilted according local fashion . Regarding the hilt : cleaning is on the way but I removed the blade from the " juice " to take some photos of the pesi . Surprisingly a piece of metal was welded to the original ( to strengthen or to match the hilt ?) .... with an unsual goldish alloy ???? Never seen such metal used for welding ..... Henri Attached Images

16th April 2012, 07:44 AM	#1
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	Hi Henri, interesting ensemble you've got there. The hilt is uniquely Salayar, "Pangulu Le'ngo" (le'nga) form, as it's called by the locals. The interesting keris blade, I cannot confirm. The hilt cup (pendokok, kili-kili) is Sumatran. The sari bulan sheath, may be Sumatran or Peninsular Malay to me. Overall a nice find, congrats!

16th April 2012, 11:24 AM	#2
dbhmgb Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 112	Indeed, a very nice keris. That hilt is quite fascinating!

16th April 2012, 12:01 PM	#3
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	Lovely keris Henri. The hilt is indeed very salayer. But how would a salayer blade look like. is there a specific salayer blade style ? Best regards, Willem

16th April 2012, 05:24 PM	#4
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Nice grab for sure - congrats, Henri! IMHO, the blade also seems to have a Straits feel to it. My best guess would be that this is a Sumatran/Straits keris that found its way into the hands of a Salayer/Selayer owner who decided to rehilt it according to local fashion. The pesi is weird though - has anyone disassembled a Selayer badik or two? Regards, Kai

16th April 2012, 07:29 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,164	Hello Henri, very good grab you have done with this keris! For the hilt you can look as well to this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ighlight=badik Agree with kai that the pesi is a little bit weird. BTW, I never have disassembled my Salayer badik and can't tell if the pesi is similar. Again, a very interesting keris and I am a little bit green with envy! Regards, Detlef

17th April 2012, 01:56 PM	#8
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,209	Well that is odd. Never seen anything quite like it.