Early European arms captured by the Ottomans

[Swordfish]

Schiavona in the Military Museum Istanbul, grip replaced.

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[Swordfish]

Fig. 6

This photograph, taken in 1889 by Abdullah Freres, shows another panoply of captured arms. The two swords dating c. 1400 are of European origin, captured by the Ottomans during their conquest of Alexandria in 1517. They bear the Arsenal inscription from Alexandria.

The two halberds of the early 16th century are of German origin. The left one has distinctive features: The spike bears a small round mark, the blade has a small nick on the lower side (hardly visible on the low resolution scan), and the side straps are broken off at the fourth hole.

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A German halberd of exact the same shape as the one on the panoply. This halberd is not only a halberd of the same shape and workshop, it is the one depicted on the panoply! It has exactly the features as the one on the panoply: The same mark, the nick on the blade, and the later added lower parts of the side straps are welded on at the fourth hole. It was sold some times ago at auction.

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[cornelistromp]

yes it is indeed the same, very nice catch.

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[ashoka]

wishful thinking but I don't believe this is the same halberd, the tip is broken off and the shape of the last serration at the back is quite different... I would assume many would have the mark in the same place on the backspike?

[Swordfish]

The tip of the halberd 7 is a bit reshaped, the mark is not only at the same position, it is the same mark (only visible on the original scan of the panoply with a magnifying glass). The lower cog has a roundet tip (this was surely pointed when the halberd was new), the two cogs above have pointed tips.
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[ashoka]

The mark would be the same if it's from the same workshop ?I meant the valley between the last serrations is different, you can't reshape that without adding metal. My apologies for doubting

[cornelistromp]

Originally Posted by ashoka

The mark would be the same if it's from the same workshop ?I meant the valley between the last serrations is different, you can't reshape that without adding metal. My apologies for doubting

there is no metal-metal added, it is removed and the latter curve has been re-shaped.
Even the dark discoloration effected in the metal match.
the outline corresponds, the mark and the mark postition corresponds.
the rivet holes, the fault line, the dents on the edge corresponds.
the corners of the spurs corresponds. ......and so on.......

this is not mass production each Halberd, even from the same workshop, is unique. It is very unlikely, read impossible , that there exist two identical halberds!
there are so many similarities that there is absolutely no doubt that this is one and the same halberd.

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